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L14[02:19:00] <JVFoxy> so.. nope man's sky....
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L18[03:08:46] <Ruth1990> Hello
L19[03:08:47] <Mod9000> Hello, Ruth1990
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L21[03:12:32] <Blaank> botspam
L22[03:12:43] <Blaank> Guys, really, just +s the channel and end this.
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L24[03:24:55] <Mat2ch> But how do they spam?
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L27[03:28:36] <mr_flea> Mat2ch: they send you spam in pm
L28[03:28:46] <Mat2ch> oh, ok
L29[04:08:37] <Rolf> just +r yourself to stop messages from unregistered
L30[04:09:18] <mr_flea> eventually I'll have managed to ban his entire ISP from the internet
L31[04:09:42] <mr_flea> so far I've gotten a sizeable amount of it, but apparently not all...
L32[04:10:13] <mr_flea> s/the internet/IRC
L33[04:10:27] <Rolf> theres a lot of ips
L34[04:14:32] <Mat2ch> just do a /ban * and everything will be great. *hides* ;)
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L36[04:26:13] <mr_flea> apparently 100 bans so far
L37[04:26:29] <mr_flea> all of them for /24 prefixes (255 IPs) or larger
L38[04:27:02] <mr_flea> there are some duplicates though
L39[04:36:52] <Rolf> set silence on !~A
L40[04:37:02] <Rolf> I think... can enter but cant say anything in channel
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L43[05:10:17] <Mat2ch> mr_flea: it's still sad that there's no way to inform the owners of the hardware that gets abused
L44[05:11:08] <Mat2ch> there could be a universal system where an operator of a service can report IPs because of spaming and the ISPs then informs the user of this IP about it and if no action is taken shuts it down
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L47[05:31:33] <Patricia1985> I'm here
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L49[05:53:44] <TheKosmonaut> Nobody gives a crap, Pat.
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L51[05:56:38] <Althego> hehe
L52[05:57:00] <Althego> the best was still when the bot replied to an initial hello
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L56[06:15:56] <Eddi|zuHause> <Mat2ch> mr_flea: it's still sad that there's no way to inform the owners of the hardware that gets abused <-- and i thought whois entries had an abuse contact for that?
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L59[06:19:06] <Glass|phone> how's the weather? [ ] good [ ] bad [x] 'end of the world' in your language trending worldwide on twitter
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L61[06:22:05] <Eddi|zuHause> i have no clue what you just said
L62[06:36:59] <Glass|phone> Eddi|zuHause: https://twitter.com/shikamaxkun/status/1034035210009030656?s=19
L63[06:36:59] <kmath> <shikamaxkun> 現在の世田谷区の様子です。 ⏎ ⏎ #雷 ⏎ #ゲリラ豪雨 ⏎ #雷のせい ⏎ #雷やばすぎ ⏎ #世の終わり ⏎ #これが始まりだ卍 https://t.co/dBj6A1BBBK
L64[06:37:30] <Glass|phone> also I have a fire station and some sirens in hearing range
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L66[06:41:38] <Mat2ch> Eddi|zuHause: they have, but there's no real system/process behind it. You can write an email, but if something happens? Who knows.
L67[06:41:47] <Mat2ch> Something like a bugtracker would be better
L68[06:42:48] <Mat2ch> you report the address, others do the same, you can monitor the ISP working on it (and there should be a body which monitors if the ISPs are working on it...) and see if it gets resolved.
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L70[06:52:23] <Deddly> Never used Kerbnet before. If I want to make waypoints, what's the best probe core to use?
L71[06:53:16] <Deddly> I assume I want a wide FOV range
L72[07:03:55] <KrazyKrl> the best probe core is Jeb
L73[07:04:06] <KrazyKrl> because he won't end up randomly seated in your solar lander.
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L76[07:54:45] <Mary95> holaaaaaaa
L77[07:55:47] <Medu> Nice
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L80[08:37:15] <Deddly> Spammer?
L81[08:37:46] <Mat2ch> probably
L82[08:38:10] <Deddly> [female name][random number] = spammer
L83[08:43:23] <Althego> that is my algo
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L85[09:00:03] <Eclipser> well it did spam me
L86[09:03:30] <darsie> What if the number is deterministic?
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L88[09:21:29] <UmbralRaptor> Well, it probably is between reseedings of whatever PRNG they're using.
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L95[09:49:44] <TheKosmonaut> GlassYuri: >hearing sirens
L96[09:50:11] <TheKosmonaut> Uh, how long have you been in tokyo now? They're constant regardless of time of day, weather, or other situations
L97[09:51:37] <GlassYuri> TheKosmonaut, the only noise pollution I get is the damn 廃品回収車
L98[09:51:50] <GlassYuri> I so want to put a RPG in that thing sometimes
L99[09:51:51] <TheKosmonaut> I hear sirens all the time
L100[09:52:01] <GlassYuri> I sometimes hear the fire station
L101[09:52:30] <GlassYuri> other times it's so quiet that I can hear the station announcements from ~800 meters away
L102[09:52:46] <GlassYuri> oh, and I hear the trains of course
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L107[10:16:06] <Deddly> Does anyone know if it's possible to rotate the Kerbnet view so that North is up?
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L113[11:01:22] <Althego> how is the spambot infestation?
L114[11:02:51] <Zarthus> the regular users are still in majority for the moment
L115[11:03:03] <Althego> hehe
L116[11:08:31] <Fluburtur> mine https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/483669104352296972/DSC_9519.JPG
L117[11:08:39] <Fluburtur> the motors on that are ridiculously tiny
L118[11:09:00] <Althego> so small
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L120[11:19:58] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/6LnUU-0eYEo
L121[11:19:58] <kmath> YouTube - High Voltage Flying Oil Experiment with Voltage Multiplier
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L123[11:21:01] <Althego> the rectifier
L124[11:21:02] <Althego> hehe
L125[11:25:54] <Arynnia> On course to encounter the Sun at less than 400 Mm - eat that, Parker Solar Probe :P
L126[11:26:05] <Althego> hehe
L127[11:26:25] <Arynnia> Fortunately, I'm getting all my science off well beforehand
L128[11:26:36] <Arynnia> because I'm not sure how well this will hold up. It's already getting hot at 930 Mm
L129[11:27:01] <Arynnia> Burned through a sixth of my ablator by 920 Mm xP
L130[11:28:15] <Arynnia> Some of the parts in the heat-resistant canister are beginning to burn at 860 Mm
L131[11:29:49] <Arynnia> Though they actually held long enough to cool down
L132[11:29:53] <Arynnia> Timewarp effects are weird
L133[11:31:24] <Arynnia> Ablator is really dropping though, half is gone by 610 Mm
L134[11:32:53] <Arynnia> And it's going up at 492 Mm
L135[11:37:20] <Eddi|zuHause> how many "biomes" does the sun have for different science experiments? (high orbit, low orbit, atmosphere, ...?)
L136[11:37:34] <Arynnia> Theoretically 5, in practice 4.
L137[11:37:45] <Arynnia> Low and high orbit and atmosphere
L138[11:38:00] <Arynnia> There's no "surface"
L139[11:38:11] <Althego> how is that 4?
L140[11:39:44] <Arynnia> Low atmo, high atmo, low orbit, high orbit
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L142[11:40:24] <Eddi|zuHause> and the height of 0 is at center?
L143[11:44:06] <Althego> it is like jool
L144[11:44:14] <Althego> has no real surface
L145[11:44:29] <Eddi|zuHause> i've never been to jool either
L146[11:44:32] <Arynnia> Although, if you get close enough to find out, you're probably ashes already
L147[11:44:40] <Arynnia> Either that, or you have a hilariously sized heatshield
L148[11:44:58] <Althego> yes jool is more practical target for surface than the sun
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L150[11:46:20] <Arynnia> Like, I'm breaking up at 400 Mm
L151[11:46:25] <Althego> nut even there everythin is destroyed at 0
L152[11:46:30] <Arynnia> The sun's atmosphere is at 0.6 Mm
L153[11:55:49] <Althego> leeeeeet the sun shiiine, leeeeet the sun shine in, the sun shiiiine in
L154[11:58:48] <Eddi|zuHause> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiumJ_nDkhs
L155[11:58:49] <kmath> YouTube - Klangkarussell - Sonnentanz (Video HD)
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L163[12:14:43] <oren> y know what, sstos are overrated
L164[12:16:36] <oren> unless you've got a construction time mod, the performance per fund of a launch vechicle is the primary measure.
L165[12:18:13] <oren> and kerbal fuel tanks are not more expensive than the fuel inside them
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L167[12:20:57] <Draconiator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZWWnvjGZTk
L168[12:20:58] <kmath> YouTube - Qume 842 8" floppy drive with a RC2014 Z80 retrocomputer
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L170[12:31:24] <Deddly> oren, Hang on... are you sure?
L171[12:32:42] <Deddly> oren, I have an empty tank here in the VAB. It is the FL-T800, and that "craft" - containing only that empty tank - costs 433 credits.
L172[12:33:25] <Deddly> Will a full load of fuel and oxidiser, it costs 800. So the hardware is actually more than half of the cost
L173[12:33:34] <Deddly> With* a full load
L174[12:35:25] <Deddly> The standard issue orange tank (Rockomax Jumbo-64) costs 5750 full, 2812 empty
L175[12:37:05] <Deddly> So now the empty tank is slightly less than half the cost. There is apparently a small amount of economy in scale
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L177[12:41:35] <oren> Deddly: I was comparing with large tanks
L178[12:42:48] <Deddly> Oren, ah, now I understand. When you said "fuel tanks are not more expensive than the fuel inside them" I thought you meant the hardware was free
L179[12:43:18] <oren> It seems like I can get better payload per fund with a design that discards fuel tanks than with a design that hauls them into orbit and back
L180[12:43:22] <Deddly> So yeah, I guess if the SSTO takes twice as much fuel to get to orbit, it's not worth it
L181[12:43:44] <Deddly> Spaceplane or rocket?
L182[12:43:47] <oren> rocket
L183[12:44:13] <Deddly> Yes, I think a rocket SSTO is unlikely to outperform a staged rocket
L184[12:44:39] <Deddly> An SSTO spaceplane, however, should be cheaper, if done right
L185[12:44:58] <Deddly> That's assuming you land it on the runway, of course
L186[12:45:33] <oren> with the rocket I can generally, with a few tries, get it on the green
L187[12:45:52] <Deddly> Nice
L188[12:46:25] <oren> it's just a matter of tuning the deorbit burn's longitude
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L191[12:47:31] <oren> assuming, of course, that you launch into a sufficiently equatorial orbit
L192[12:58:01] <oren> I hate how batteries expand when they run out of juice, and manufacturers don't make allowance for this
L193[12:58:40] <oren> I just spent 20 minutes trying to pry a AA battery out of my mouse
L194[13:00:18] <Deddly> I've never heard of batteries expanding. I guess I just never came across that problem
L195[13:01:31] <Althego> heat the mouse up :)
L196[13:02:03] <Althego> then it expands and you can get the batteries
L197[13:02:37] * UmbralRaptor has only heard of it with lipo batteries. Which are usually not AA
L198[13:13:50] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyqEv6jMOUA
L199[13:13:50] <kmath> YouTube - Beautiful Views Final Approach into Faroe Islands
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L201[13:19:32] <KalleS> hello
L202[13:19:34] <Mod9000> Hello, KalleS
L203[13:19:53] <Althego> could it be that you are not a spambot?
L204[13:20:06] <KalleS> no, i am a bot
L205[13:20:13] <Althego> finally
L206[13:20:30] <KalleS> what did i just say? i'm a bot!
L207[13:20:43] <KalleS> xD
L208[13:20:51] <Althego> we believe in free will. we have no other choice
L209[13:21:07] <KalleS> but im a noob at ksp, just came here from the link in the menu screen
L210[13:21:30] <Althego> there is a link there? surprises me
L211[13:21:43] <KalleS> well no, but there is a link to the forums
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L213[13:24:19] <KalleS> its quiet in here
L214[13:24:52] <Althego> sometimes
L215[13:25:00] <KalleS> well i guess im not american and i predict that most of the players are from usa
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L217[13:25:22] <Althego> quite a few players here from europe and even from japan
L218[13:25:31] <KalleS> oh nice
L219[13:25:32] <Althego> ok they are probably americans living in japan
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L221[13:25:39] <KalleS> im from finland
L222[13:29:22] <KalleS> lmao i just made a plane that actually works
L223[13:29:32] <Althego> not that hard
L224[13:29:41] <Althego> now put it on a rockat and get it to laythe :)
L225[13:29:42] <KalleS> for me it is :D
L226[13:30:04] <KalleS> goddammit my intake exploded
L227[13:30:11] <Althego> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/47818-basic-aircraft-design-explained-simply-with-pictures/
L228[13:31:23] <KalleS> ty
L229[13:32:08] <Althego> kind of old tutorial, you can see the old models in the hand drawn pictures too
L230[13:32:08] <KalleS> actually i consider myself a pro, i once got to the mun WITHOUT cheats!
L231[13:32:12] <Althego> but it is still true
L232[13:32:15] <KalleS> ok
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L242[14:30:13] <Fluburtur> how https://78.media.tumblr.com/02f1b019131e07c6b34294df1582531c/tumblr_pc5d8eO4sJ1vtts30o2_250.jpg
L243[14:31:37] <Althego> hehe
L244[14:31:40] <Fluburtur> fun cats collection http://blaruu.tumblr.com/post/177447224357/spavettios-i-eat-your-pancakes
L245[14:32:00] <Althego> i saw a 3 legged cat today
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L247[14:40:32] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/d661438740814ec63e678211134e3ce5/tumblr_pdzen29zcR1udmrgco1_540.jpg
L248[14:41:55] <Althego> lol
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L251[14:56:51] <oren> The island in the middle of the crater on Kerbin doesn't seem to have any special objects or biomes on it. I am disapoint
L252[15:10:57] <UmbralRaptor> Same
L253[15:11:29] <UmbralRaptor> There's a tracking station / antenna relay on the rim closest to the mainland, at least.
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L260[15:59:49] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/450678447879225345/483742332722872330/DSC_0049.JPG
L261[15:59:58] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186669324500993/483742415916761098/DSC_0055.JPG
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L263[16:45:58] <Fluburtur> dQw4
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L274[17:39:15] <Eddi|zuHause> about that plane tutorial, i was asking myself recently whether the parts about KSPs stock model are still accurate
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L278[17:41:46] <Mat2ch> Eddi|zuHause: they mostly are
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L280[17:42:30] <Mat2ch> and since they fixed the drag calculation the tutorial is even more accurate now
L281[17:43:55] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm slightly disappointed FAR doesn't work in 1.4.x anymore. is there an alternative?
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L301[18:33:33] <Supernovy> Evening, Gentlemen.
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L303[18:35:31] <umaxtu> evening
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L321[20:09:48] <oren> stock propeller plane
L322[20:09:50] <oren> https://imgur.com/jLxwsrv
L323[20:09:50] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/jLxwsrv.jpg
L324[20:11:30] <oren> I don
L325[20:11:55] <oren> 't know how to make the stock propellers so I disguised a wheesley
L326[20:12:46] <Supernovy> I don't think there's a way to make them turn except with doing them as separate craft.
L327[20:13:48] <oren> wait, correection, the disguise is non-stock MRS stockalike
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L329[20:15:18] <oren> I could use basic fins I guess
L330[20:18:42] <oren> yeah that looks better even
L331[20:22:22] <oren> https://imgur.com/VeaVBnZ
L332[20:22:22] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/VeaVBnZ.jpg
L333[20:27:01] <JVFoxy> plane is a smoke'n
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L335[20:46:13] <oren> This thing flies pretty well, despite the massive drag cause by two fins way out in front
L336[20:46:50] <oren> https://imgur.com/BMhYNKf
L337[20:46:50] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/BMhYNKf.jpg
L338[21:04:04] <oren> https://imgur.com/gcQ3jZO
L339[21:04:04] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/gcQ3jZO.png
L340[21:11:57] <JVFoxy> heh.. plane tug
L341[21:12:02] <JVFoxy> well spaceplane tug
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L347[22:09:20] <oren> https://imgur.com/gnC10KR
L348[22:09:20] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/gnC10KR.png
L349[22:10:12] <oren> hmm... that did not work
L350[22:10:43] <oren> needs real airbrakes
L351[22:15:32] <oren> at least it gives a high enough apoapsis that I can perform my trans-munar injection before it reenters
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L354[22:48:09] <oren> I don't understand why sometimes the landing gear are fine and sometimes they spontanously bounce my craft into the air
L355[22:54:39] <oren> I don't understand how even with all these updates, this problem that was caused in 1.1 has not been fixed
L356[23:09:13] <oren> so off I go to install what ought to be called the "working wheels mod"
L357[23:09:41] <Eddi|zuHause> it's the kracken
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L359[23:14:39] <oren> Eddi|zuHause: since version 1.1 the stock landing gear have been infected with krakens
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L362[23:32:07] <Supercheese> yeah landing gear are notorious for being wiggly/jumpy/floppy and messed up
L363[23:32:44] <Althego> hehe, xkcd
L364[23:34:16] <Supercheese> ☢
L365[23:41:33] <KrazyKrl> There is a joke in there... a fantastically inappropriate joke... but a joke none the less.
L366[23:49:12] <UmbralRaptop> ☣☠☡
L367[23:49:44] <UmbralRaptop> sadly, there's nothing in Unicode for the laser. Yet.
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