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L2[00:16:15] <Althego> still no sign of the
base that should be there (ryugu haven)
L3[00:16:26] <Althego> therefore these are
fake cgi nasa pictures
L4[00:18:32] <Eddi|zuHause> one day i'll
make an attempt at the Ryukyu achievement
L5[00:19:26] <UmbralRaptor> Althego: JAXA,
so a conspiracy would have to be international.
L6[00:19:32] <Althego> i know
L7[00:19:37] *
UmbralRaptor stares at the illuminati
L8[00:19:38] <Althego> but that is what they
always say
L9[00:19:59] <Althego> ibn typical american
fashion, as if there was no other space agency
L10[00:20:06] <Eddi|zuHause> what good
conspiracy ISN'T international?
L11[00:20:54] <Althego> yes, the whole
universe is in it
L12[00:21:19] <Eddi|zuHause> if they can
keep up a conspiracy to make the people believe the world is round,
they certainly can manage THAT
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L15[00:25:12] <Eddi|zuHause> there are some
really great conspiracy theories that later turned out to be
true
L16[00:26:08] <Althego> true
L17[00:26:25] <Althego> but most of them
are just conspiracy theories
L18[00:26:37] <Althego> or rather they were
true by accident
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L20[00:28:25] <stupid_chris> TheKosmonaut
WHADDUP
L21[00:28:38] <TheKosmonaut> stupid_chris:
you live
L22[00:28:45] <stupid_chris> I live
L23[00:28:52] <stupid_chris> wanna get
jelly my dude
L24[00:29:01] <TheKosmonaut> Depends
L25[00:29:04] <Eddi|zuHause> and then there
was snowden, who published truths that were even more dire than
most of the conspiracy theories
L27[00:29:33] <Althego> and therefore the
us government hates him
L28[00:29:34] <TheKosmonaut> >no
pictures
L29[00:29:54] <stupid_chris> theres like 25
pics bruh
L30[00:29:57] <TheKosmonaut> stupid_chris:
Boi you know I can't read
L31[00:29:58] <Althego> 23
L32[00:29:59] <Althego> on top
L33[00:30:06] <stupid_chris> LOL
L34[00:30:13] <stupid_chris> theere are
pics
L35[00:30:14] <Althego> so is this through
a text to speach?
L36[00:30:17] <stupid_chris> are you on
mobile?
L37[00:30:24] <TheKosmonaut> stupid_chris:
yeah
L38[00:30:29] <TheKosmonaut> I'll switch to
laptop in a min
L39[00:30:31] <stupid_chris> p sure mobile
also shows the pics
L40[00:31:00] <TheKosmonaut> Not that I can
see
L41[00:31:12] <stupid_chris> TheKosmonaut,
click the picture top left
L42[00:31:16] <TheKosmonaut> Are they in
your wallotext?
L43[00:31:24] <Althego> probably because
your brain blocks them as ads
L44[00:31:33] <Althego> they are on
top
L45[00:31:37] <stupid_chris> nah, there
should be a tiny one up top, then you can go through them
L46[00:31:52] <Althego> first i ignored
them too, because surely those are only ads
L47[00:31:53] <TheKosmonaut> /kick
stupid_chris we don't allow NSFW content here.
L48[00:32:01] <stupid_chris> if only
L49[00:32:26] <stupid_chris> been rocking
this big boy for the past two months
L50[00:32:29] <stupid_chris> its fun
L51[00:32:39] <stupid_chris> The Witcher 3
in 4k is one hell of a ride
L52[00:32:58] *
TheKosmonaut didn't enjoy TW3
L53[00:33:04] <TheKosmonaut> HERESY
L54[00:33:18] <stupid_chris>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L55[00:33:30] <TheKosmonaut> Good looking
game tho
L56[00:33:38] <TheKosmonaut> Just I ain't
got time no more
L57[00:33:50] <stupid_chris> yeah, my full
playthrough took me 155h
L58[00:33:58] <stupid_chris> my summer was
lit
L59[00:35:00] <Althego> hehe
L60[00:35:14] <stupid_chris> I overpaid my
1080ti though
L61[00:35:23] <stupid_chris> not mad that I
didnt wait for Turing though...
L62[00:35:42] <stupid_chris> also praise
Ryzen
L63[00:35:55] <Althego> which is completely
useless for a game that uses at best a few threads
L64[00:36:03] <stupid_chris> 8c/16t@4.2GHz
for 380$? sign me up boi
L65[00:36:10] <stupid_chris> its not for
gaming
L66[00:36:12] <Althego> but i am happy that
amd is making a comeback
L67[00:36:15] <Althego> and intel is
failing
L68[00:36:30] <Althego> because it means
competition, and that results in lower prices
L69[00:36:40] <stupid_chris> if I wanted to
get a good gaming CPU I wouldnt have gone higher than 2600
L70[00:36:55] <stupid_chris> I need 8c for
professional workloads
L71[00:37:05] <stupid_chris> multiple VMs,
threaded compilation, CPU rendering, etc
L72[00:37:15] <stupid_chris> it's also the
reason I went with 32Gb ram
L73[00:37:23] <Althego> it has a place
there
L74[00:37:24] <stupid_chris> VMs eat the
crap out of RAM
L75[00:37:46] <Althego> that is why most of
the time i stick with chroots and lxcs
L76[00:37:50] <stupid_chris> like legit
though, if you wanted 8c/16t back in 2016, we were talking
i7-6900k
L77[00:38:03] <stupid_chris> which was a
1200$ chip
L78[00:38:22] <stupid_chris> the fact I
have the same core count and same clock speed for less than 400$ is
insane
L79[00:38:49] <stupid_chris> yeah, but it's
hard getting a good dev environment going on lightweight linux
distros
L80[00:39:12] <Althego> they essentially
packaged smaller chips together, that way yield is higher
L81[00:39:22] <Althego> you can never beat
that in a sinlge chip design
L82[00:39:28] <stupid_chris> opening some
of my smallest C++ projects would anihilate my VM on my
laptop
L83[00:39:34] <Althego> although certain
workloads would suffer from it
L84[00:39:58] <stupid_chris> yeah, but I
don't do too heavy stuff
L85[00:40:09] <stupid_chris> my OC actually
crashes after 10mins of Prime95
L86[00:40:15] <Althego> hehe
L87[00:40:18] <stupid_chris> but I never
actually push my chip that hard
L88[00:40:43] <stupid_chris> if I want it
to actually survive long runs of P95, I have to bump the voltage
from 1.375V to 1.425
L89[00:40:54] <stupid_chris> not worth it
considering it's stable for my workloads
L90[00:41:14] <Althego> there is not much
to be gained by oc on modern processors
L91[00:41:21] <stupid_chris> gettings
pretty good temps, but I did slap a 360mm AIO on it lmao
L92[00:41:21] <Althego> they already doing
that to themselves
L93[00:41:33] <stupid_chris> well, not all
cores
L94[00:42:11] <stupid_chris> my TimeSpy CPU
score went up like 40% after my OC
L95[00:42:31] <stupid_chris> and my
Cinebench score went up considerably as well
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L102[02:41:02] <stupid_chris> TheKosmonaut
is Imgur album embedding broken on the forums?
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L107[03:05:30] <TheKosmonaut> Maybe
L108[03:05:37] <TheKosmonaut> Or maybe
not
L109[03:05:47] <TheKosmonaut> Aladeen
imgur does what it wants
L110[03:06:05] <Althego> do what you want
'cause a pirate is free
L111[03:29:03] <stupid_chris>
TheKosmonaut, I'm getting weird "the album will be posted when
the post is submitted" shenanigans
L112[03:29:12] <stupid_chris> like... the
post is submitted
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L115[03:48:24] <Althego> you should
combine the satellite dish with an rc plane, and build a small
awacs :)
L116[03:48:48] <Fluburtur>
"small"
L117[03:49:26] <Althego> bigger than the 8
cm one on my speakers
L118[03:49:50] <Fluburtur> yeah but I
would need a rather large plane to even fit the dish
L119[03:49:57] <Fluburtur> not to mention
the drag
L120[03:49:57] <Althego> i know
L121[03:50:22] <Althego> you could put it
inside the body, would work through the plastic
L122[03:50:35] <Fluburtur> yeah but is
big
L123[03:50:43] <Fluburtur> I could point
it up or down but not much use then
L124[03:50:47] <Fluburtur> exept for a
ground radaer
L125[04:12:48] <Althego> then turn it into
airborn deathray
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L127[04:16:57] <Fluburtur> give me the
laser then
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L136[06:51:24] <kmath> YouTube - Command
& Conquer - Nod Obelisk of Light Sound effect
L137[06:53:54] <Kalpa> Bzzzzz zappp
L138[06:55:33] <Althego> but this was not
the original effect
L139[07:07:29] <Fluburtur> huh my friend
is not home
L140[07:07:47] <Fluburtur> guess I should
fly the vg33 then, if I break it I will have another week to
rebuild it
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L146[07:40:47] <Eddi|zuHause> man, i
played the original C&C so long ago, it feels like another
lifetime
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L154[10:53:29] <Althego> cant get the flay
away from the screen with the mouse cursor
L155[10:55:11] <Azander> Anyone have a
warp-capable craft using KSPI ? I can't seem to get the right power
requirements to make it work
L156[10:57:54] <TheKosmonaut> I can barely
get a fully electric vehicle working
L157[10:58:22] <TheKosmonaut> (ions or
other such propulsion)
L158[10:58:24] <Althego> vehicle
manufactured. robot manufactured. territory lost
L159[10:58:59] <Althego> ions are just
painful. even if they are 1000 times more powerful than in
reality
L160[10:59:22] <Althego> nasa has people
to watch it burn for months, i dont have that kind of time
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L163[11:05:04] <Althego> hah proof of
concave earth
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L171[12:19:10] <Fluburtur> I have been
watching some videos about black holes
L172[12:19:47] <Fluburtur> sicne the time
dilation becomes infinite at the event horizon, that means stuff
that falls in never actually falls in the black hole for a outside
observer
L173[12:20:04] <Fluburtur> but if you
throw a car in a black hole and measure the mass, would it become
greater?
L174[12:20:41] <Fluburtur> but I guess
from the viewpoint of the car it falls in just fine
L175[12:21:02] <Fluburtur> so for an
outside observer, does the car stop just before the event horizon
but its mass gets added to the black hle?
L176[12:21:13] <Medu> Pretty much.
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L179[12:21:34] <Medu> There is also
something called the holographic principle
L180[12:21:51] <Medu> Where whatever falls
into the Black becomes part of its surface
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L182[12:22:54] <Medu> The object would
unroll itself over the surface or some creepy shit like it
L183[12:23:23] <Fluburtur> black holes are
too complicated
L184[12:23:26] *
TheKosmonaut blows dust off of the laminated
rule-sheet
L185[12:23:28] <Fluburtur> remove
them
L186[12:23:43] <Althego> in a way they are
not, they have only a few properties
L187[12:23:49] *
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at Medu
L188[12:24:02] <Medu> Ah yes I forgot the
rules.
L189[12:24:05] <TheKosmonaut> This has
been your daily session of "annoying moderator"
L190[12:24:13] <TheKosmonaut> Your
cooperation is appr--- mandatory
L191[12:24:23] <Medu> Been a while since
the last time. Sorry. xD
L192[12:24:26] <Althego> "thank you
for your cooperation"
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L196[12:25:08] <Medu> But honestly I doubt
black holes are really singularities
L197[12:25:21] <TheKosmonaut> /nick
TheKosminante
L198[12:25:24] <Medu> Maybe from our
viewpoint
L199[12:25:39] <Medu> But I wouldnt wonder
if there is an entire universe going inside of them
L200[12:25:44] <Althego> that depends on
what quantumgravity does
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L202[12:25:50] <Medu> And if that is how
universes come to be
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L204[12:27:33] <Medu> If time grinds to a
halt it will never reach the center of mass... ever... not within
the scope of our universe.
L205[12:29:45] <Medu> And with that in
mind it cant really be a singularity then.
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L208[12:35:00] <Medu> But then again I
think that general relativity is pretty much flawed anyway.
L209[12:35:08] <Althego> in what
way?
L210[12:35:15] <Althego> it has to be
incomplete at least
L211[12:35:16] <Medu> It was never
developed with particle physics in mind.
L212[12:35:21] <Althego> exactly
L213[12:35:35] <Medu> Hence why it refuses
to work with it.
L214[12:35:44] <Althego> it doesnt mean it
is wrong
L215[12:35:52] <Medu> It probably is
though
L216[12:36:09] <Althego> every last
prediction of it was confirmed
L217[12:36:26] <Medu> It may abstractly
describe what happens on a grand scale but it definitely lacks
solutions in extreme situations
L218[12:41:56] <oren> I need to finish my
series of kerbal labelled maps
L219[12:42:16] <oren> I only made the Mun
and Minmus
L220[12:42:23] <Althego> yes we need
those
L221[12:42:25] <Medu> The worst part about
it is that we dont even know how the force is mediated... if it is
a hypothetical particle like the graviton or if it is an attribute
of spacetime itself.
L222[12:42:50] <Althego> and that is why
gravity is the least understood force
L223[12:43:55] <Althego> and you have a
point there that general relativity might be fundamentally
incorrect, even if it gives correct results, because if it is not a
distortion of space time but a particle it is a failure
L224[12:44:11] <Medu> Probably always be
too... because from what I read once a hypothetical setup to
measure the existence of gravitons would be so huge it would
require such a huge shielding that it might even collapse to a
black hole itself.
L225[12:44:26] <Althego> hehe
L226[12:44:50] <Althego> but there is
gravitational waves measurement, at even that seemed to be
impossible a few years ago
L227[12:45:56] <Fluburtur> yeah humans are
weird, they say a thing is impossible then they do it
immediatly
L228[12:46:03] <oren> well if gravity is
quantized as particles then that should be visible as gaps in the
spectrum of gravitational waves
L229[12:46:37] <Althego> maybe in a few
decades
L230[12:46:52] <Althego> several
instruments under constructin and these are just the crudest
instruments
L231[12:46:59] <Althego> they are like the
first telescopes
L232[12:47:48] <Medu> But honestly quantum
gravity without gravitons sounds kinda un-scientific.
L233[12:48:20] <Medu> I mean would we
really accept that spacetime bends itself magically just by the
existence of mass?
L234[12:48:54] <Medu> all over the
distance of entire solar systems, galaxies and the entire
universe
L235[12:49:16] <Medu> Sounds like crap
imho
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L237[12:53:02] <Althego> i dont even know
what mass is since the higgs
L238[12:53:11] <Medu> Some kind of force
mediator has to be there or we can go back to ether world
models.
L240[12:56:06] <Medu> I think the weirdest
finding in quantum stuff is that they found out that what you don't
measure doesn't actually exist or something like that.
L241[12:57:03] <Medu> Which basically
means we could be creating and at the same time experience the
world all around us just by being sentient beings living inside of
it.
L242[12:57:12] <Medu> Makes me think of
Inception.
L244[12:59:12] <Medu> That stuff.
L245[13:01:05] <Althego> i liked the
quantum chesire cat better
L246[13:01:29] <Althego> where the
property of the particles was separated from the particles
L247[13:01:38] <Althego> like the smile of
the chesire cat
L248[13:02:37] <Fluburtur> my screen on
the right has much more saturation than my screen on the left but
is fine because left is my main screen and right is for irc and
discord and other stuff like that
L249[13:02:46] <Medu> The thought is weird
but if taken to reality it would mean the wall behind me doesnt
exist unless I look at it. oO
L250[13:04:46] <Medu> The universe is just
a simulation and by that it is trying to save performance. xD
L251[13:04:56] <Althego> that can be
L252[13:05:07] <Medu> I wouldnt wonder
about that either.
L253[13:05:12] <Althego> but i dont like
that idea, so until there is some evidence for it i just ignore
it
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L260[13:44:33] <Althego> at least the
window is a bit shiny
L261[13:44:48] <Althego> come on people, a
shader is literally zero cpu, add soem shine
L262[13:57:11] <oren> for the first time,
my mun mission in a new save used a separate command module and
lander
L263[13:57:40] <oren> by doing that, I was
able to land 3 times before going home
L264[14:03:35] <JVFoxy> did a contact to
hit 3 or 4 spots above the surface of the mun. Went out with a
command ship and a drone. Got all the spots, nearly ran out of fuel
getting the drone back.
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L267[14:14:49] <Eddi|zuHause> wow, i just
came home, and while glancing over the screen i had this weird
3D-effect. turns out it's not on the screen, but there's a spider
hanging down a few cm in front of the screen
L268[14:15:32] <eddeig> :-)
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L270[14:15:52] <Eddi|zuHause> but really,
it's hanging right in the center :p
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L274[14:17:01] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not
entirely sure how such a thing can reach space...
L275[14:17:29] <Eddi|zuHause> or fly, for
that matter :p
L276[14:18:18] <Althego> what huge
engines
L277[14:19:05] <UmbralRaptop> hrm
L278[14:19:19] <oren> This is shown
without the large external tanks
L279[14:19:28] <JVFoxy> s'ok.. my cheetah
is just a regular plane, stupid crazy big jet engines.
L280[14:19:46] <oren> the huge engines are
for lifting said tanks
L281[14:19:50] <UmbralRaptop> Wait, does
that have a butterfly tail for legit reasons?
L282[14:20:08] <JVFoxy> V tail? ya looks
it
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L284[14:21:06] <UmbralRaptop> Tail does
pitch and yaw, wings do roll.
L285[14:21:26] <Althego> and the baker
does the bread roll :)
L286[14:21:42] <Fluburtur> v tail are
great
L287[14:21:46] <JVFoxy> I find V tails
tend to cause a bit of roll if you not careful
L288[14:21:56] <JVFoxy> not as much as
regular ones, depends on placement
L289[14:21:59] <Fluburtur> they are used
in some racing airplanes because less drag
L290[14:22:04] <Eddi|zuHause> is there
some sophisticated physics behind those?
L291[14:22:12] <Fluburtur> same planes
that only have a aileron on one wing and single blade props
L292[14:22:26] <UmbralRaptop> Fluburtur:
I'm used to seeing people in KSP use them where a conventional tail
would be better.
L293[14:22:36] <JVFoxy> sorta physics, in
the real world, there is also some complications in the mechanics
connecting them to the stick
L294[14:23:11] <oren> well it has a v tail
because a normal tail would be blasted off by exhaust
L295[14:23:12] <Fluburtur> im not sure
there is a hard rule to decide wether you need a regular or v
tail
L296[14:23:19] <Fluburtur> more like what
is more convenient
L297[14:23:30] <Fluburtur> but the best is
inverted v tail because it makes the plane roll the right way
L298[14:23:39] <oren> so, sort of a legit
reason?
L299[14:23:56] <Eddi|zuHause> i've once
seen some drone tube thing, which had a 1-wing propeller on each
end of the tube, and some electrics and programming to control the
propeller speed on a really fine level, to steer it
L300[14:24:10] <JVFoxy> complexity, you do
loose a bit of control because the surfaces aren't acting directly
on the direction you want to go
L301[14:25:43] <Fluburtur> you don't
really lose that much
L303[14:26:14] <Fluburtur> I need to make
another v tail aircraft
L304[14:26:19] <JVFoxy> no but surfaces do
end up having to be a little bit bigger
L307[14:26:32] <Althego> hehe interesting
design
L308[14:26:39] <Fluburtur> still smaller
total area than a regular tail
L309[14:26:48] <oren> Also, a normal
tailfin would be sticking thru the external tanks
L310[14:26:50] <Althego> i would have just
use one long tank
L311[14:27:04] <Althego> less drag, less
mass
L312[14:27:04] <JVFoxy> Oren huh... those
tanks, you got the pointed facing up instead
L313[14:28:02] <JVFoxy> matter of
preferences..
L314[14:30:03] <Eddi|zuHause> isn't
"pointy end up" one of the kerbal beginner rules?
L315[14:31:33] <oren> hmm tank separation
needs work
L318[14:32:30] <JVFoxy> ah, using fuel in
part of the pointed section
L319[14:33:25] <UmbralRaptop> Oh,
semi-reusable spaceplane, capable of carrying 2 tourists or
cadets.
L320[14:33:43] <UmbralRaptop> hrm
L321[14:39:08] <JVFoxy> I've done rocket
planes as spaceplanes... some with drop tanks
L322[14:39:39] <JVFoxy> tolerances are a
little tight though, gotta get the launch path done jsut right or
don't make it
L323[14:42:43] <oren> kerbal engineer
can't calculate this correctly
L324[14:43:02] <oren> I need to be able to
put an engine shutdown command in the stage diagram
L325[14:50:52] <oren> well, not as if I'm
actually flying this with the spacebar anyway
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L330[15:08:39] <JVFoxy> be nice if you
could stage actions like you do decouplers rather than have it set
to every time you hit spacebar
L331[15:09:11] <Althego> you can stage a
lot of things
L332[15:09:31] <JVFoxy> I've had a few
things where I only need it done once during a staging section, be
nice rather than having to hit or use up a number key.. or maybe
I'm just lazy
L333[15:10:37] <JVFoxy> like... one
creation I only need the RCS ports on a injection stage going till
a certain stage went off...
L334[15:11:00] <JVFoxy> then having the
crafts own internal RCS was needed
L335[15:12:17] <JVFoxy> eh well.. weather
today turned nasty, guess telling me to get my head in the game,
work on recording stuff
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L340[15:23:34] <oren> lol I see they still
havent fixed the north pole anomaly
L341[15:23:45] <Althego> why would they
:)
L342[15:23:47] <JVFoxy> ya... though my
kerbals just faceplant
L343[15:24:00] <JVFoxy> or at least camera
snaps directly over top of them
L344[15:24:22] <JVFoxy> you can jump over
it.. watch camera go crazy.. just don't land on the four
corners
L347[15:24:56] <JVFoxy> trying to land
near it is a pain... causes camera pan as you get closer
L348[15:26:01] <JVFoxy> nice thing about
the poles and no planet tilt.. sun.. all day every day :)
L349[15:26:33] <JVFoxy> well ok.. more
like morning or evening sun but still
L350[15:26:54] <Deddly> Plant flag right
on the pole :D
L351[15:28:39] <JVFoxy> can you even pick
up flag if you place it wrong or is it stuck there?
L352[15:28:58] <Althego> normally you
can
L353[15:30:07] <JVFoxy> just realized...
any pics of kerbin map I can use in a video?
L354[15:30:43] <Althego> wiki?
L355[15:30:53] <Althego> or turn on the
cheat
L356[15:31:16] <JVFoxy> something of an
idea came up, means I need to mark down locations for the
video
L357[15:31:23] <oren> map of kerbin?
L358[15:32:34] <JVFoxy> looking over
kerbin map.. still says its on temp server?
L359[15:33:03] <JVFoxy> seeing a lot of
small islands, then feeling a little sad the game makes the planet
so baren
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L361[15:34:32] <JVFoxy> I guess this idea
of a tour of kerbin... checking out the islands, rivers some other
stuff. but without buildings or the likes, sorta.. eh..
L362[15:34:42] <Althego> has heavy meteor
bombardment
L363[15:34:51] <Althego> even if there are
more kerbals they are underground
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L367[15:36:00] <JVFoxy> lol... so KSC has
a hidden anti meteor protection system somewhere? Would it be heavy
lasers or nuke missile launching?
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L371[15:40:22] <Althego> ksc by itself is
small
L372[15:40:27] <Althego> unlikely to be
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L374[15:42:38] <Althego> but the planet is
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L378[15:45:21] <JVFoxy> I do see the two
big hits.. but they looked aged, one more than the toher
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L384[15:51:02] <JVFoxy> hoping 2t cargo vs
4.5t isn't going to take up the last of my fuel reserves for this
flight test...
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L386[15:51:29] <Rolf> JVFoxy: that tells
us that kerbals live underground if lands of grass and trees is a
novelity.'
L387[15:51:38] <Rolf> explains lack of
everything besides rocket base
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L389[15:52:28] <JVFoxy> or they just live
at the center... creating new ones on a whim
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L398[16:23:06] <oren> this will take
awhile
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L400[16:27:47] <PatriciaTa84> hola
L402[16:33:23] <oren> Unlike minmus and
the Mun where all the unique areas have biomes and therefore
official names, I have to come up with names for all these
thingies
L403[16:33:51] <Fluburtur> I have a better
solution for names
L404[16:34:11] <Fluburtur> send a bunch of
suborbital rockets all across the planet and areas get the names of
the kerbals that ended there
L405[16:37:17] <oren> Hmm, yeah I can just
get kerbal names from random kerbals
L406[16:42:09] <oren> Eh, first I'll do
the other planets
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L414[18:14:35] <oren> Apparently Eve's
Foothills are higher than the Peaks
L415[18:15:33] <oren> It can be inferred
therefore that Evebals constantly walk on their hands
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L444[21:22:17] <oren> You can use kerbals
in command seats as headlights that use no electric charge
L445[21:24:52] <JVFoxy> ... sounds a
little cheaty huh?
L446[21:25:25] <JVFoxy> then again...
command pod, may as well have endless amount of RCS fuel with use
of Kerbals. :P
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L448[21:50:02] <Eddi|zuHause>
unfortunately kerbals can't use RCS while grabbing a ladder
L449[21:50:21] <Eddi|zuHause> so you can't
steer properly :p
L450[21:51:51] <UmbralRaptop> Eh, there
are also wheellights that don't use charge.
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L452[21:55:41] <Eddi|zuHause> i was just
wondering, how far would the moon have to have formed away from the
earth to not end up tidal locked?
L453[21:56:03] <JVFoxy> thought landing
gear lights use charge still?
L454[21:56:06] <JVFoxy> least from waht I
seen
L455[21:56:57] <Eddi|zuHause> (assuming
earth and moon have the same size and position around the sun and
whatnot)
L456[21:57:08] <JVFoxy> ya.. t1 landing
gear lights use 0.1 charge, regardless of colors set on them.. even
if all set to 0
L457[22:01:47] <Eddi|zuHause> huh, a
planetbase update. wasn't quite expecting that
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L460[22:08:55] <JVFoxy> ugh.. flying fuel
tanks to a test base, forget to disable fuel transfer.
L463[22:19:50] <oren> Labelled map of
Duna!
L464[22:21:36] <JVFoxy> awesome!
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L468[22:27:52] <oren> actually there is
something missing. I need to label the point on Duna that is
directly under Ike
L469[22:30:19] <JVFoxy> .... ike is
geostationary?
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L471[22:32:49] <oren> Yeah
L474[22:34:06] <oren> Ike wobbles north
and south but always stays above about 3 degrees easty
L475[22:34:09] <JVFoxy> ah.. I hadn't been
out there myself so.. never got around to reading up on it
L476[22:36:39] <oren> ksp has a lot of
tidally locked bodies
L477[22:38:50] <JVFoxy> lot of very flat
spinning planets
L478[22:39:05] <JVFoxy> well... non-tilted
planets
L479[22:39:26] <Eddi|zuHause> uhm, i think
"ike above" is a terrible label
L480[22:43:11] <oren> Eddi|zuHause: I'm
open to suggestions
L481[22:43:45] <oren> I'll need labels for
the places on Laythe Vall and tylo that have Jool above
L482[22:44:11] <oren> and the place on the
Mun which faces Kerbin
L483[22:48:17] <oren> How about
"Below Ike"
L484[22:48:34] <oren> [AIke's
L485[22:49:11] <JVFoxy> you just marking
out biomes right?
L486[22:49:18] <JVFoxy> is below ike even
a biome?
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L491[22:51:41] <oren> JVFoxy: not
precisely biomes, more like, interesting areas
L492[22:51:52] <JVFoxy> points of
interests...
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L495[22:52:55] <JVFoxy> though sorta
closely matches biomes in a way.. duna have a high and low
point?
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L498[22:58:47] <JVFoxy> ws
L499[22:58:51] <JVFoxy> blutr
L500[22:59:05] *
JVFoxy makes random sounds from mouth... ugh.
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L506[23:10:47] <oren> JVFoxy: I've
identified the highest point on Duna as the peak of the highlands
west of Northeast Basin
L508[23:13:14] <JVFoxy> geez... iceshelf
is more than 100km across.. finally my base shows up 95km out and
already flown for a while over the edge of the shelf
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L510[23:15:49] <oren> JVFoxy: Problem with
that thing is it's showing the phsical appearance of the planet,
not the biomes
L511[23:16:50] <JVFoxy> oren if you look
top right.. you can set which layers.. biome layer is one
L512[23:17:14] <JVFoxy> oh wait..
L513[23:18:07] <JVFoxy> oren sorry..
n/m... kerbin and mun only two that have the biome layer.:\
L514[23:20:49] <oren> Yeah this is
probably so old it's from back when only kerbin and the mun had
biomes
L515[23:21:59] <oren> yeah the kerbin
biome map is old, it's not accurate to current version
L516[23:22:50] <oren> It has the phantom
tundra between ksc and the grasslands
L517[23:24:10] <JVFoxy> that site came
into being when the original kerbal maps disappeared. I don't know
if it ever came back. Sorta into the void like kerbal comics back
in the day :(
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L523[23:40:27] <oren> Hmm, testing
indicates that the external tanks can in fact splash down
L524[23:41:10] <oren> Now I need to figure
out how to have only one external tank
L525[23:42:39] <oren> or have two that are
attached together somehow
L526[23:47:07] <JVFoxy> going with one
poses some challenges with balancing center of mass and
thrust
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L528[23:54:18] <Deborah21> hola
L529[23:54:31] <Althego> he we go
again