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L26[01:56:19] <kmath> YouTube - TIMELAPSE
OF THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE
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L28[02:04:52] <CarlenWhite> Anyone working
with RemoteTech at the moment? Having a bit of an issue.
L29[02:05:37] <Althego> as opposed to
yesterday i am working in the office today, not remote at all
:)
L30[02:05:59] <CarlenWhite> :v
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L32[02:06:48] <CarlenWhite> Anyways. It's
being a bit funky with a kerbal on board in that control is lost
when coms are down.
L33[02:11:32] <CarlenWhite> ComNet is
seemingly off so, Hrm.
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L89[07:17:39] <GlassYuri> TheKosmonaut, so
what do I do if I know someone is commiting suicide but all I know
is their damn line account
L90[07:18:06] <TheKosmonaut> GlassYuri:
uhh
L91[07:18:13] <TheKosmonaut> I dunno?
L92[07:18:47] <Althego> wather than what to
do, what can you do?
L93[07:18:49] <Gasher_> stop worrying at
first
L94[07:19:10] <Althego> somebody has to be
able to track the account to a real person, but maybe police is
needed for that
L95[07:19:21] <legion> call social
services, or the suicide help hotline?
L96[07:19:53] <Althego> but normally police
wouldnt react to such a thing
L97[07:19:59] <Althego> ok, japan may be
different
L98[07:22:09] <legion> asking for help is
never, ever a bad thing.
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L104[08:16:28] <Pakaran> What altitude is
good to switch from surface to orbit view when doing a manual
ascent?
L105[08:17:32] <Pakaran> I tend to wait
way too long, burn well off orbit prograde, and end up with a high
enough apo that trying to correct it later would mean burning down
(beyond the 3-5 degrees that I sometimes already do).
L106[08:24:20] <Althego> happens
automatically anyway
L107[08:24:27] <Althego> the switch
L108[08:24:40] <Althego> on the
navball
L109[08:25:00] <Althego> or do you mean
map? i usually fly in map view anywya and can see my apo
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L111[08:28:13] <Althego> that is the main
reason i hated the autohiding navball
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L113[08:28:25] <Althego> just who came up
with that stupidity
L114[08:32:16] <ve2dmn> Althego: Probably
the same guy who force me to use &amp;amp; in an XML
file
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L116[08:36:27] <Gasher_> autohiding
navball is set up in options btw
L117[08:36:50] <Gasher_> also KER alows
you to put a HUD display with apo on screen
L118[08:37:09] <ve2dmn> Gasher_: +1 for
KER
L119[08:37:23] <Althego> actually i have
that on ker too
L120[08:37:47] <Althego> and yes, ever
since autohide can be turned off, i turn it off
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L122[08:38:17] <Gasher_> you know i think
i have seen that option in the menu recently
L123[08:40:50] <TheKosmonaut>
GlassFragments: as someone who has worked with suicidal people, if
this is something that they announced then they probably aren't
going to. Rather, they're looking for someone to listen to them.
That said, LINE accounts are typically registered with your
provider in order to do anything from Line pay to adding via
ID
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L125[08:48:36] <ve2dmn> As someone who
battle severe depression ^ +1
L126[08:51:20] <GlassFragments>
TheKosmonaut, I was talking to the police, they can't do anything
with just a line account and none of my friends know his address or
phone
L127[08:52:07] <GlassFragments>
TheKosmonaut, the person said goodbye and left our line group, I
attempted several times to contact him and all I got was more
goodbyes and good luck with my future
L128[08:52:27] <TheKosmonaut> Yeah.
They're not gonna do it.
L129[08:53:15] <TheKosmonaut> People that
are determined to do so usually don't make a big deal. It's almost
always a shock to those that know the dead.
L130[08:53:35] <Black_Eagle> uuhhh it's
been a while. how do i uninstall mods?
L131[08:54:00] <GlassFragments> he sent me
a voice message which sounded like he was already overdosed on
something, and stopped hanging up
L132[08:54:01] <TheKosmonaut> Black_Eagle:
just remove the folder from the gamedata folder
L133[08:54:10] <Black_Eagle> right,
thanks
L134[08:56:13] <TheKosmonaut>
GlassFragments: there's nothing you can do. You won't get an answer
on time from anyone that would have his contact info like a school
or employer.
L135[08:58:04] <Black_Eagle> What country
are you in, GlassFragments?
L136[08:58:17] <GlassFragments>
TheKosmonaut, well it's harsh to say but if he really did it he's
gotta be dead by now
L137[08:58:21] <GlassFragments>
Black_Eagle, japan
L138[08:58:43] <TheKosmonaut>
GlassFragments: exactly. I doubt he did.
L139[08:59:04] <TheKosmonaut> I don't know
what he'd be getting to OD on over the counter here. You can't get
sleeping pills
L140[09:00:00] <ve2dmn> TheKosmonaut: you
can overdose on other things, but they are not painless, so I doubt
he did it
L141[09:00:30] <TheKosmonaut> ve2dmn: yes
but getting anything other than ibuprofen here is pretty hard
L142[09:00:59] <ve2dmn> What about
paracemetol?
L143[09:01:10] <ve2dmn>
(Acethaminophene)
L144[09:01:35] <TheKosmonaut> Can't get
that
L145[09:02:21] <ve2dmn> Need a
prescription?
L146[09:02:33] <TheKosmonaut> Ibuprofen is
pretty much the strongest painkiller you can get here without a
prescription
L147[09:02:46] <Black_Eagle> ...and now
KSP won't load. Why did you guys talk me into modding my
game?
L148[09:03:02] <ve2dmn> Black_Eagle: did
you try CKAN?
L149[09:03:14] <Black_Eagle> no
L150[09:03:32] <Black_Eagle> what *is*
ckan?
L151[09:03:34] <ve2dmn> Black_Eagle:
you'll probably have to start again from 0, but it's a mod
manager
L152[09:04:12] <Black_Eagle> nice
L153[09:04:29] <ve2dmn> Just like the
Nexusmods mod manager, or the Steam add-on thingy
L154[09:04:56] <Black_Eagle> is ckan
better than nmm?
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L156[09:05:02] <Black_Eagle> as in quality
wise
L157[09:05:07] <ve2dmn> nmm?
L158[09:05:13] <Black_Eagle> nexus mod
manager
L159[09:05:30] <ve2dmn> it's much simpler,
but it's KSP-only
L160[09:05:45] <Black_Eagle> i know
they're for different games and i can't use nmm with ksp but i
don't want ckan if it breaks stuff like nmm does
L161[09:06:33] <ve2dmn> They all do, but I
had mostly good experience with CKAN
L162[09:07:25] <ve2dmn> And when it broke,
I exported the list of installed mods, backuped my save and
re-installed KSP from 0 using Steam to solve the issue
L163[09:08:56] <ve2dmn> TheKosmonaut: I'm
almost suprised they let me in the country with a prescription
then
L164[09:11:02] <Black_Eagle> having
medication while entering the country is usually not a problem if
you have a prescription for it
L165[09:11:23] <Black_Eagle> the only time
would be when your drug is classified as a narcotic in the
destination country
L166[09:11:53] <ve2dmn> Black_Eagle: which
is gonna be a problem starting this summer in Canada
L167[09:11:58] <Black_Eagle> how
come?
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L169[09:12:16] <ve2dmn> We are gonna get
even MORE tourist who will come to smoke and drink
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L171[09:12:49] <Black_Eagle> elaborate?
who's "we"?
L172[09:12:57] *
ve2dmn is in Montreal
L173[09:13:05] <ve2dmn> The legal drinking
age is 18.
L174[09:13:24] <ve2dmn> Spring break is...
interesting
L175[09:14:21] <ve2dmn> But now with the
legalization of Marijuana...
L176[09:14:54] <ve2dmn> Anyway. I'll have
to stay away from the stuff if I want to cross the border
L177[09:16:53] *
ve2dmn is not 100% it's a valid subjet since it's not legal
everywhere
L178[09:18:13] <KrazyKrl> It doesn't
matter if it's legal... it matters if it's against the rules on
espernet or in this channel.
L179[09:18:32] <Black_Eagle> ah yes US 21,
forgot for a second. but that's kind of not the same thing,
drinking and getting high isn't really medication. i was talking
about some amphetamine-derivatives that are, well, amphetamines in
some countries and in some countries they're prescription
medicine
L180[09:18:34] <KrazyKrl> da internet
tubes is global.
L181[09:19:27] <KrazyKrl> obviously one of
the prerequisites for this channel is legality... so there ya
go.
L182[09:20:44] <ve2dmn> KrazyKrl: well,
it's not legal, yet
L183[09:22:21] <ve2dmn> The framework is
being worked on. The deadline is soon-ish
L184[09:24:50] <ve2dmn> On a completely
unrelated topic, I was home sick yesterday and I watch the video of
Elon Musk at SXSW
L185[09:25:29] <ve2dmn> Kind of
interesting. It's clear he know that his ventures are very big
risks
L186[09:27:17] <ve2dmn> I'm sure the fact
that people at SpaceX and Tesla are motivitated by the vision
helped keep both companies working
L187[09:37:45] <GlassFragments>
TheKosmonaut, so I've found the person in question's real name,
birth date, and language school student id, and the police may be
able to get his address from that tomorrow. I'm sorry if I made
anyone uncomfortable bringing this in here.
L188[09:39:54] <TheKosmonaut>
GlassFragments: that's good. Don't worry bout it
L189[09:40:14] <TheKosmonaut>
GlassFragments: the important thing is to just let him be
heard.
L190[09:40:29] <TheKosmonaut> Is he a bit
of a hermit at all?
L191[09:40:36] <GlassFragments> yeah I'm
fine I think. I mean I did everything I could
L192[09:41:27] <GlassFragments> we didn't
have much contact since we graduated last year, in school he always
took responsibility
L193[09:42:19] <GlassFragments> every time
the schedule for the next week or some special notice was announced
he immediately took a picture and sent it to everyone
L194[09:45:54] <GlassFragments> whatever,
don't really feel like talking about it
L195[09:46:04] ***
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L196[09:50:22] <APlayer> Hi!
L197[09:50:29] <TheKosmonaut> APlayer:
iH
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L201[09:55:06] <APlayer> So, today they
ripped up the only short road to my school
L202[09:55:34] <APlayer> There is another
one, but it leads through approximately half the city
L203[09:56:14] <GlassYuri> APlayer, well
obviously it's your fault for not owning a private helicopter
L204[09:57:22] <APlayer> Well, the issue
is that my bus back home didn't arrive
L205[09:57:28] <TheKosmonaut>
>bus
L206[09:57:33] <TheKosmonaut> What a
plebe
L207[09:57:45] <APlayer> So I kind of
stood there, waiting, and it was for nothing
L208[09:57:58] <TheKosmonaut> Why don't
you just take an UberHelicopter if your own isn't available?
L209[09:58:18] <APlayer> Ended up walking
home literally from the furthest east part of the town to the
furthest west one
L210[09:59:09] <APlayer> TheKosmonaut:
There were no UberPilots
L211[09:59:16] <ve2dmn> APlayer: must be a
small town
L212[09:59:43] <TheKosmonaut> How many km
is that
L213[09:59:53] <APlayer> Let me look up in
Google
L214[10:00:05] <GlassYuri> I regularily
walk 12+km home, but not necessarily when it's damn cold and
raining like now, or "spring" holidays like now
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L217[10:01:12] <ve2dmn> GlassYuri: 12km at
4km/h is 4h... how fast are you walking?
L218[10:01:39] <GlassYuri> usually takes
around 3~4 hours, yeah
L219[10:01:50] <ve2dmn> O_o
L220[10:02:11] <GlassYuri> 12km is nothing
really
L221[10:02:29] <ve2dmn> I agree, but I
bike that, not walk it
L222[10:02:40] <APlayer> 2.5km straight
line, 3km realistically
L223[10:02:55] <GlassYuri> longest I ever
did was about 30km, twice in seven and once in about ten
hours
L224[10:03:01] <ve2dmn> APlayer: that's 2x
my walk to the Metro station
L225[10:03:11] <APlayer> Must be a small
town. :P
L226[10:03:24] <ve2dmn> Which I do most
days if it's not raining
L227[10:03:44] <APlayer> ve2dmn: It's not
far, but it's ugly anyway
L228[10:04:00] <GlassYuri> I have on
several occasions walked down entire train lines in one go
L229[10:04:15] <ve2dmn> The definition of
a small town in North America is one where there are no
sidewalk
L230[10:04:29] <UmbralRaptor> Uh
L231[10:04:31] <GlassYuri> that makes 90%
of tokyo a small town
L232[10:04:56] <APlayer> GlassYuri: Are
there sidewalks? Yes. Is it a small town? No. :P
L233[10:05:00] <UmbralRaptor> DC suburbs
are a small town
L234[10:05:05] <ve2dmn> GlassYuri: you are
an exception... If I walked 4h both ways to and from work I would
barely have time to sleep and work
L235[10:05:25] <GlassYuri> ve2dmn, I don't
do it every day
L236[10:05:26] <APlayer> Who knows?
Perhaps they sleep on the way?
L237[10:05:45] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptor:
true. That defintion need to be updated
L238[10:05:54] <GlassYuri> APlayer, I'm
mindful of my safety and don't sleep while phonewalking
L239[10:06:33] <UmbralRaptor> Sleepwalking
would solve many commuting issues.
L240[10:06:47] <ve2dmn> lol
L241[10:07:00] <ve2dmn> takes me 1h to get
to work by bike
L242[10:07:38] <ve2dmn> If I walked that,
with 8h of work, 8h of sleep and 8h of walk... I would have to eat
while walking
L243[10:07:53] <APlayer> Or eat while
working
L244[10:07:59] <ve2dmn> I already do
that
L245[10:08:01] <APlayer> Or, better yet,
while sleeping
L246[10:10:53] <APlayer> So, I've used one
of the school's 3D printers a few times recently. There is one
teacher responsible for it, so I had to do it via him, and he gave
me keys for the room and stuff. Yesterday, a classmate comes up to
me, tells me he needs to print something an the teacher sent him to
me
L247[10:11:09] <APlayer> Apparently, I am
the new "print-it" guy :P
L248[10:11:26] <ve2dmn> Congrats
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L250[10:12:23] <GlassYuri> APlayer, when I
was still in school in germany I took actual university classes
after school for a few years. during that time I was the chosen one
who checked if non-working computers were plugged in
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L253[10:15:30] <APlayer> Reminds me of a
case last week when we thought a projector was dead. Turns out, it
just needed a few minutes to get up to full brightness, and we
discovered it by accident because we forgot to unplug it
L254[10:15:51] <APlayer> Speaking of high
inductance power supplies
L255[10:15:56] <APlayer> No, not really
:P
L256[10:16:08] <ve2dmn> APlayer: my main
issue with projectors these days: They still mostly have VGA
connectors
L257[10:16:19] <ve2dmn> (The ones I am
stuck with at least)
L258[10:16:30] <APlayer> Uh, everything
around here uses VGA
L259[10:19:25] <ve2dmn> Teachers... sorry,
Professors have expensive laptops with no VGA
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L261[10:20:50] <ve2dmn> same with
researchers
L262[10:21:54] <ve2dmn> nobody ever has
the right adaptor
L264[10:22:27] <APlayer> also note* the
URL
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L266[10:23:12] <ve2dmn> I rather carry
around my docking station
L268[10:28:23] <ve2dmn> classic
L269[10:28:41] <ve2dmn> GlassYuri: ever
seen the back of that package?
L270[10:29:01] <APlayer> For non-german
speakers: "HDMI-Cable, connection to H2O"
L271[10:29:03] <GlassYuri> I just became
aware that it exists but haven't found it so far
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L274[10:30:35] <APlayer> "If you have
any questions, ask your local water distribution plant or
gardener"
L277[10:31:17] <APlayer> Too many
L279[10:31:28] <ve2dmn> That company makes
TONS of them
L280[10:32:26] <ve2dmn> I wish I could get
one
L283[10:34:01] <ve2dmn> That DIN
883...
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L286[10:35:04] <APlayer> I am more
impressed by DIN 885
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L290[10:43:22] <ve2dmn> Write-only memory,
AKA a piece of plastic with pins
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L292[10:44:09] <ve2dmn> Almost as usefull
as a 0 Ohm resistor, which DO exist btw
L293[10:44:23] <APlayer> What for?
L294[10:44:37] <ve2dmn> pick-and-place
machines
L295[10:45:08] <ve2dmn> They are made to
grab the resistor form, so they wrapped a wire in a resistor
casing
L296[10:46:09] <APlayer> Well,
technically, a 0 Ohm resistor, no matter the tolerance, has to be a
superconductor, so perhaps those aren't as useless as they
sound...
L297[10:46:38] <APlayer> Although I guess
the operating temperature would be outside of the range of sensible
electronics
L298[10:46:59] <ve2dmn> it's probably
defined 0 +/- 2 ohm
L299[10:47:11] <APlayer> 0 - 2 Ohm is fun
too
L300[10:47:17] <ve2dmn> yup
L301[10:47:30] <APlayer> Free power
L302[10:47:38] <ve2dmn> it so good, it
collect extra electricity from the air!
L303[10:49:00] <ve2dmn> only issue: you
probably can't turn off
L304[10:49:14] <APlayer> Integrated
MOSFET
L305[10:49:31] <APlayer> Or integrated
flip-flop
L306[10:51:14] <ve2dmn> unless it has a
'i' value of resistance... but then it's not a resistance
anymore
L307[10:51:29] <APlayer> LOL what
L308[10:51:30] <ve2dmn> -2+100i Ohms
L309[10:51:51] <APlayer> So, what happens
when you have two of those in parallel?
L310[10:52:11] <ve2dmn> Magic! ... or...
SCIENCE!
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L312[10:53:33] <APlayer> By the way,
ve2dmn, since I am not sure what exactly your field of expertise is
- how well are you with embedded electronics?
L313[10:53:52] <ve2dmn> Not done any in
10years+
L314[10:54:31] <ve2dmn> I did code for
them, but no soldering in quite some time
L315[10:55:13] <APlayer> Because I am
trying to interface an Arduino with a sensor via I2C and miserably
failed, and no idea how to track down the issue
L316[10:55:46] <ve2dmn> add a
resistor
L317[10:55:52] <ve2dmn> (I have no clue
either)
L318[10:55:53] <APlayer> Pull-up?
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L320[10:56:04] <APlayer> AH, you mean a
negatively-ohmic one? :P
L321[10:56:41] <APlayer> We'll call those
assistors
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L323[11:01:42] <bees> ve2dmn: 'i'
resistance?
L324[11:01:44] <bees> literally
magic
L325[11:02:38] <ve2dmn> nah. Electronic
uses 'j' instead of 'i'
L326[11:02:59] <ve2dmn> (see complex
impedance plane )
L327[11:03:11] <APlayer> Wait
L328[11:03:28] <ve2dmn> yes, it's a real
thing
L329[11:03:30] <APlayer> So two bodies
need i mass to graviationally repel?
L330[11:03:51] <ve2dmn> no
L331[11:03:54] <APlayer> G * m_1 * m_2 /
r²
L332[11:03:57] <ve2dmn> they need negatice
mass
L333[11:04:14] <APlayer> But If both
masses are negative, they attract again
L334[11:04:15] <ve2dmn> i would help in
that regard
L336[11:05:20] <RoboFreak> why is there
noe pedance? :)
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L338[11:12:05] <ManuxKerb> hi
L339[11:12:06] <Mod9000> Hello,
ManuxKerb
L340[11:12:16] <UmbralRaptor> lo
L341[11:13:36] <SnoopJeDi> negative
masses...
L342[11:13:39] <ManuxKerb> has anybody
noticed, that in 1.4.1 dlc relay networks do not work anymore ?
See:
https://ibb.co/j2gCKc
L343[11:13:42] *
SnoopJeDi stares into the Dirac sea
L344[11:14:01] <ManuxKerb> i should have
prob control throu the link but i dont :-(
L345[11:14:15] <ManuxKerb> probe
L346[11:15:05] <APlayer> ManuxKerb: What
mods do you use?
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L348[11:16:06] <ManuxKerb> APlayer:
nothing who should interfere with antenna stuff, not many part
mods, i post list asap
L350[11:18:19] <ManuxKerb> does it work
without mods ?
L351[11:20:19] <APlayer> ManuxKerb: If you
go to the Alt-F12 menu, what control locks does it show?
L352[11:21:14] <ve2dmn> ManuxKerb: probe
out of power?
L353[11:23:13] <ManuxKerb> ve2dmn: no it
has power and solar panels
L354[11:23:47] <ve2dmn> cuz there is more
then 1 reason for loss of probe control
L355[11:23:59] <ManuxKerb> APlayer:
vesselNoControl, KER AdvancedBar, DebugMenu
L356[11:25:10] <ManuxKerb> this probe has
all antennas so far i have unlocked so something should connect to
the other vessel, i mean the green line is there but not the
control.........
L357[11:25:35] <APlayer> I see two
options: ModuleManager could be messing with your antenna modules
(test by launching similar probe in direct KSC range and checking
connection) or it's something stock KSP indeed
L358[11:26:39] <APlayer> AntennaSleep
might be messing with things too, but unlikely
L359[11:27:01] <ve2dmn> ManuxKerb: did you
use a direct antenna instead of a realy antenna?
L360[11:27:06] <ve2dmn> wait... not that
cannot be it
L361[11:27:19] <ve2dmn> you would not get
a link
L362[11:27:25] <ve2dmn> (nevermind)
L363[11:28:36] <ManuxKerb> APlayer: it has
a direct connection with the ksc when the probe is in from of eve
so it can connect directly
L364[11:29:09] <APlayer> Could be the
relay probe too
L365[11:29:53] <ve2dmn> ManuxKerb: do you
have control of the realy probe no issues?
L366[11:30:12] <ManuxKerb> yes i have full
control of tghe relay probe
L367[11:30:21] <ve2dmn> weird
L368[11:31:57] <ManuxKerb> i kknow
L369[11:32:35] <ManuxKerb> i cheated a
normal setup into duna (small 16 antenna on one craft and the the
first RElay antenna on the other and no issues)
L370[11:33:16] <ManuxKerb> but it does not
work on eve i dont get it
L371[11:38:33] <ManuxKerb> could this be a
bug in 1.4 ?
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L373[11:38:50] <APlayer> If it works
elsewhere, unlikely
L374[11:39:27] <APlayer> Might not even be
a bug at all, but something intended we are missing
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L383[11:50:24] <AlonzoTG> bleh, I'm trying
to experiment with an alternate modpack out of tree but the game
keeps shutting down because I don't have certain Steam integration
files.
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L388[12:09:25] <Althego> vk? what kind of
video site is that? havent heard of it
L389[12:10:29] <Althego> what, 34 more
mintes?
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L392[12:29:05] <Gasher> vkontakte
lol
L393[12:31:19] <Althego> hah some kind of
social networking site
L394[12:31:32] <Althego> why do these even
have video support
L395[12:32:04] <Gasher> because
L396[12:34:27] <Gasher> 5 minutes
L397[12:34:39] <Althego> what, nextrocket
says 10
L398[12:35:49] <Gasher> they have just
said that on stream
L399[12:35:53] <Althego> lol they are
listening to music
L400[12:36:01] <Gasher> lol
L401[12:36:09] <Gasher> black
sabbath?
L402[12:38:00] <Althego> hehe the
hand
L403[12:38:16] <Althego> |,,|.
L404[12:38:19] <Gasher> one minute
L405[12:38:45] <Gasher> they have the
football championship mascot toy
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L408[12:39:28] <Gasher> start
L409[12:39:55] <Gasher> i mean, keyed to
start
L410[12:42:27] <Althego> what is that
tablet thing?
L411[12:42:48] <Gasher> tablet
where?
L412[12:43:11] <Althego> guy in the middle
was constantly touching a plate with a small stick
L413[12:43:47] <Gasher> ah, probably
checking some sequence, idk
L414[12:44:06] <Althego> abort?
L415[12:44:28] <Althego> doesnt seem like
that, but i heard that word
L416[12:44:29] <Gasher> no
L417[12:44:43] <Althego> hah engines
on
L418[12:44:45] <Gasher> launch
L419[12:45:57] <Althego> they dont seem to
be shaking much
L420[12:46:17] <Althego> it must be a fake
:)
L421[12:46:22] <Gasher> they shake on
landing
L422[12:46:43] <Althego> all rockets shake
on the way up
L423[12:46:47] <ve2dmn> I lost the
stream
L424[12:46:48] <ve2dmn> When
happened?
L425[12:46:49] <ve2dmn> What
happened?
L426[12:46:52] <ve2dmn> I saw that bit...
but right now?
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L428[12:47:00] <Althego> it is going
up
L429[12:47:18] <ve2dmn> so I missed the
launch
L430[12:47:21] <ve2dmn> sad
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L432[12:47:29] <ve2dmn> I lost the network
at the wrong time
L433[12:47:41] <Althego> it is always the
wrong time
L434[12:48:03] <Althego> they really have
a smooth ride
L435[12:48:27] <Fluburtur> I guess it is
the most shaky on engine startup
L436[12:48:51] <ve2dmn> I wonder how many
G
L437[12:49:03] <Fluburtur> 2 or 3 I
guess
L438[12:49:05] <Althego> usually human
rated launches would limit to something like 3
L439[12:49:10] <Fluburtur> not more than 5
that's for sure
L440[12:49:26] <ve2dmn> I did about 1.5G
on a plane and it was painful
L441[12:49:32] <ve2dmn> I can't imagine
2-3
L442[12:49:56] <Althego> with training 2-3
is not that much
L443[12:50:12] <Althego> and anybody who
goes up has some years of training
L444[12:50:22] <Althego> some part of it
is probably going towards that
L445[12:51:44] <Althego> 2 americans and 1
russian
L446[12:52:02] <Fluburtur> dude is having
fun with the stick
L447[12:52:05] <Gasher> ve2dmn, well you
are not trained for that anyway
L448[12:52:07] <Althego> hehe oleg, a kind
of stereotypical russian name
L449[12:52:23] <Gasher> ah yeah, tablet
indeed
L450[12:52:26] <Althego> must be playing
angry birds or something
L451[12:52:29] <Althego> on that
tablet
L452[12:53:02] <Gasher> whatever to
distract from things that they don't have any control about
L453[12:53:07] <Gasher> lol
L454[12:53:14] <Gasher> "crew is
feeling festivous"
L455[12:53:22] <Althego> i guess the
tablet is the privilege of being a commander :)
L456[12:53:27] <Gasher> instead of just
"good" lol
L457[12:53:44] <Fluburtur> I would be
feeling that way too if I was on top of a soyuz
L458[12:53:53] <Althego> but they are not
playing kerbal music
L459[12:53:58] <Gasher> orbited
L460[12:54:07] <Althego> i expect that in
space :)
L461[12:54:41] <Gasher> i switch that off
all time
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L465[12:56:06] <kmath> YouTube - Lego
Railway system: Rotary dumper module & Elevator module
L466[12:56:38] <ve2dmn> I wish there was a
Kerbal Radio
L467[12:57:04] <ve2dmn> (with ads in
kerbalish and loss of signal when you lose the uplink)
L468[12:58:02] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: sounds
like a module for the great ball contraption
L469[12:58:10] <Fluburtur> it is
L470[12:58:58] <ve2dmn> It's just missing
the 'Made by AFOL' sticker
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L482[13:27:19] <CarlenWhite> A unmanned,
out of range ship almost was able to survive with critical
components by doing a
sick drift on it's scanner.
L483[13:27:53] <CarlenWhite> But
unfornately it was able to overcome the SAS and tumbled into
pieces.
L484[13:29:37] <Althego> hehe. if you are
not part of the solution you are either solid or gas... (i knew
this joke as part of the precipitate) or you are the 99% of all
matter that is plasma
L485[13:29:58] <Althego> i didnt expect
the plasma in this
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L487[13:31:24] <ve2dmn> So, what you are
saying is that the carbon atoms that are me should feel lucky there
are not part of a soup of plasma?
L488[13:31:47] <Althego> isnt most normal
matter is in stars?
L489[13:31:52] <Althego> so statistically
yes
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L491[13:32:50] <ve2dmn> It's not like the
atoms in, say, saturn, have conciousness to care about this
fact
L492[13:34:19] <UmbralRaptor> Most
baryonic matter is in gas clouds between stars.
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L494[13:37:58] <NGC3982> is there any mod
that enables foldable arms that have mount points?
L495[13:38:06] <NGC3982> would be nice to
fold out engines and stuff
L496[13:41:28] <Althego> hah, voyager
pylons!
L497[13:44:19] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptor: so
I'm a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of a tiny
fraction of all the matter?
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L501[14:02:22] <ve2dmn> Althego: there's
also the classic "If you are not part of the solution, there's
probably good money in prolonging the problem as a
consultant"
L502[14:02:32] <Althego> hehe
L503[14:02:48] <Althego> i didnt knmow
that one either
L505[14:03:03] <Black_Eagle> humm humm 2.7
tons kerbal to orbit
L506[14:03:23] <Althego> lol
L507[14:03:42] <Black_Eagle> they added a
new small tank (Lf 9.9) in the update
L508[14:04:33] <Althego> several
L509[14:04:44] <Althego> i like the
donut-dumpling-whatwasthethird trio
L510[14:05:03] <Althego> ok the donut is
the round 8
L511[14:05:15] <Althego> but now there is
a family of golden tanks with special shapes
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L518[14:20:18] <Black_Eagle> Althego,
yes.
L519[14:20:38] <Althego> cant read the
text in the smaller picture
L520[14:20:38] <Black_Eagle> so 2.685t to
LKO
L521[14:20:42] <ve2dmn> Black_Eagle: did
you fix your mod issues?
L522[14:21:05] <Black_Eagle> i also have
loads of fuel left. i wonder how much
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L525[14:21:33] <Black_Eagle> ve2dmn yes
and no. removed all, verify with steam. stock ksp now and i'll keep
it like this too
L526[14:21:59] <ve2dmn> you know you could
just make a copy of KSP and mod that?
L527[14:23:12] <ve2dmn> No DRM in the
game, so nothing stopping you from having multiple folders, each
with a different mod test suite
L528[14:23:21] <Black_Eagle> i've heard of
that but my goal this time was to get the new update working and my
mods didn't like the new version so i had to remove them. i guess i
didn't have to remove them all but still
L529[14:23:27] <ve2dmn> and if you try
CKAN, it support multiple install
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L531[14:24:06] <ve2dmn> And if you screw
things badly, you still have a backup: that other copy :)
L532[14:24:14] <Black_Eagle> cool, maybe
one day :) just sounds like a lot of work for now. i'm not a noob
in terms of modding but i know how much work maintaining a working
library can be
L533[14:24:57] <ve2dmn> like I said: try
CKAN. It offer a list of compatible mods, you select the ones you
want, it simply downloads and install them
L534[14:25:12] <ve2dmn> At this point, if
KER is not install, I simply cannot play the game
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L536[14:25:52] <ve2dmn> unistalling is a
simply: deselect the mod, and click apply
L539[14:26:55] <ve2dmn> but I understand
your frustration: I play Stellaris without any mods
L540[14:27:53] <ve2dmn> Each time I tried
to mod the game, I had weird bugs
L541[14:27:59] <Black_Eagle> aye. at one
point i had a skyrim install with ~100 mods, ini tweaks, external
graphics tools and script extensions
L542[14:28:17] <Black_Eagle> worked
wonderfully
L543[14:28:24] <Black_Eagle> but a LOT of
work!
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L548[14:34:04] <ve2dmn> I did the same
with Oblivion and it convinced me that I would never play these
games on a console.
L549[14:34:16] <ve2dmn> Modding support is
crutial to my experience
L550[14:35:37] <ve2dmn> mostly because I
got the 'underleveling' issue in Oblivion otherwise
L551[14:45:25] <Lyneira> Fun with Kerbal
Foundries antigrav motors: A Hover Explorer that can go supersonic
over land and sea if it wants and not crash, ISRU capability
integrated in the cargo bay:
http://puu.sh/zMASi/f2a2f5b26b.jpg
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something
L561[15:19:24] <Althego> fez style cubic
jupiter
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L571[15:54:53] <jgkamat> Fluburtur: what
is it from :o
L572[15:55:02] <Fluburtur> it's a thing I
designed
L573[15:55:06] <Fluburtur> to repair my
glider
L574[15:55:25] <jgkamat> that's really
cool :D. I wish I had the patience to do areo hobbies :P
L575[15:55:34] <jgkamat> I'm really bad at
flying things outside of ksp
L576[15:55:39] <jgkamat> and perhaps in
ksp too
L577[15:57:46] <Fluburtur> eh it's not
that hard
L578[15:57:57] <Fluburtur> exept if you
have depth perception issues or bad eyes
L579[15:59:04] <jgkamat> I think I lack
the coordination part of it, I also overcompensate quite a
bit
L580[15:59:28] <jgkamat> maybe these would
get better with practice though
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L584[16:11:55] <Fluburtur> yeah
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L589[16:26:43] <APlayer> No way
L590[16:32:00] <APlayer> Anyway, I've got
to go for today. See you!
L591[16:34:53] <UmbralRaptor> FAR, maybe.
Or ferram4 might stab you.
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L593[16:35:31] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
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L595[16:53:31] <SnoopJeDi> hi Supernovy
\o
L596[16:54:02] <Supernovy> Hello there
SnoopJeWhoop.
L597[16:54:10] <SnoopJeDi> howsit?
L599[16:54:58] <Supernovy> it's
well.
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L609[18:35:05] <kmath> YouTube - Fish
Stair Evolution - Marble Machine X #29
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L623[19:28:56] <waterlubber> Whoops, sorry
about that
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L639[21:27:09] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: Fix bayonets and prepare the orbital rocket
launch batteries!
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L642[21:34:29] <UmbralRaptor> Fly me
closer, I want to hit them with my sword!
L643[21:34:33] <UmbralRaptor>
>_>
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L645[21:35:38] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptor: Roger that, Lord Commissaraptor!
L646[21:35:54] <UmbralRaptor> Oh, hey.
Eric Mamajek was on that team.
L647[21:36:53] <Scolar_Visari> Maximum
power to the deflector array you filthy Ogryns! I want batteries on
full alert, let's not let that stellar glare catch of us guard! And
for the love of the Emperor, will some one fix that stuck starboard
thruster!?
L648[21:38:09] <Scolar_Visari> Marcos,
Marcos & Aarseth, "Where the Solar system meets the solar
neighbourhood: patterns in the distribution of radiants of observed
hyperbolic minor bodies" Monthly Notices of the Royal
Astronimical Society: Letters 2018
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1802.00778.pdf
L649[21:39:01] *
Scolar_Visari reads the text. "Our N-body calculations and
subsequent statistical analyses lead to the following
conclusions" suggests their build of KSP had Principia
installed.
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L653[21:43:33] *
Scolar_Visari curses the Nature's paywall for, "Timing of
oceans on Mars from shoreline deformation".
L654[21:45:05] <UmbralRaptor>
sci-hub?
L655[21:45:53] <Scolar_Visari> No version
of the text or its preprint us up for free anywhere on the
web.
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L657[21:46:11] <Scolar_Visari> Clearly a
conspiracy by the Dusters to, once again, put down us
Belters.
L658[21:46:21] *
Scolar_Visari remembers the Cant.
L659[21:46:42] <UmbralRaptor> blarg
L660[21:51:01] <UmbralRaptor> !wa 52000 au
in ly
L661[21:51:11] <UmbralRaptor> ;wa 52000 au
in ly
L662[21:51:14] <kmath> UmbralRaptor:
convert 52000 au (astronomical units) to light years: 0.8223 ly
(light years)
L663[21:51:27] <Scolar_Visari> Argh, can't
find "Options and uncertainties in planetary defense: Mission
planning and vehicle design for flexible response"
either!
L664[21:51:40] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptor: Pretty close, huh?
L665[21:51:47] <UmbralRaptor> yeah
L666[21:52:45] <Scolar_Visari> Sigh, at
least I still have Ahrens & Harris' "Deflection and
fragmentation of near-Earth asteroids".
L667[21:53:21] <UmbralRaptor> One
moment
L668[21:56:23] *
Scolar_Visari suspects most (if not all) the people criticizing the
idea of deflecting asteroids with nuclear weapons have not read any
papers on the subject but watched plenty of Michael Bay
movies.
L669[22:01:09] <tawny> would you need like
a pusher plate in order to do that
L670[22:01:15] <tawny> like on an orion
rocket
L671[22:02:15] <Scolar_Visari> tawny: No.
Simply detonating a nuclear bomb near an asteroid's surface would
be enough deflection provided at least a decade's worth of advance
notice.
L672[22:02:54] <Scolar_Visari> The facing
surface of the offending asteroid would be vaporized by the
weapon's radiation, generating an appreciable amount of thrust and
providing the few m/s of delta-v needed for deflection.
L673[22:03:51] <Scolar_Visari> Though the
yield needed for deflection grows with the asteroid's mass. While a
horrendous yield weapon would be required of super ELE sized
killers, they're the least prolific NEOs and not a threat for the
foreseeable future.
L674[22:03:55] <tawny> oh okay a decade
ahead of time
L675[22:04:22] <tawny> that's a little
generous though, I didn't think we were nearly good enough at
tracking asteroids just yet
L676[22:05:27] <Scolar_Visari> Meh, this
only applies to very large examples. Running a probe into them is
sufficient otherwise.
L677[22:06:49] <Scolar_Visari> Advanced
detection is infinitely more important than the particular means of
deflection, though you could probably get comprehensive coverage
against, "City killer" asteroids by making orbital scopes
like WISE.
L678[22:07:35] <UmbralRaptor> LSST should
help considerably.
L679[22:08:30] <Scolar_Visari> If an
asteroid so much as farts, I want to know about it.
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L681[22:11:01] <Scolar_Visari> The vast
majority of potentially threatening NEOs (that is, those that
frequently cross Earth's orbit) should be small enough for
deflection by kamikaze probes.
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L684[22:15:38] <Scolar_Visari> I used to
have a scan of the original 1992 Nature article, but it appears to
no longer be on the web.
L686[22:17:42] <TheKosmonaut>
Scolar_Visari: Elon having a timeline that is too ambitious?
L687[22:17:46] <TheKosmonaut>
Noooooooo
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L689[22:18:49] <Scolar_Visari> Kosmonaut:
Ah, yes, but I will be a wealthier organism for it.
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L691[22:19:45] <Scolar_Visari> To be
frank, I really can't even imagine the finished vehicle (should it
ever exist) looking anything like the current renders given the
notorious weight gain that plagues aerospace development.
L692[22:20:11] <TheKosmonaut>
Scolar_Visari: yeah but it's like betting that 19 year old Mike
Tyson is gonna knock out some rando in the first round. Like
betting on the death Star being blown up
L693[22:20:24] <Scolar_Visari> The BFR's
gonna have a lot of the same issues the STS did back during fully
reusable two stage concepts.
L694[22:21:21] <Scolar_Visari> Kosmonaut:
And yet, there are people who readily believe the BFR will probably
beat the 2020 deadline in spite of everything. There's a galaxy's
difference between optimism and reckless R&D deadlines.
L695[22:24:14] <Scolar_Visari> It's rather
. . . worrisome when someone comes on time and under budget with
multi-billion dollar projects.
L696[22:25:16] <Scolar_Visari> "Well,
we completed our interplanetary space vehicle ahead of schedule!
However, in the interest of reducing structural mass, our design
team opted to remove the propellant tanks and pressurized crew
section!"
L697[22:25:54] <BenjaminK> no need for
those!
L698[22:26:09] <Scolar_Visari> "While
our critics in the media may attack us for what we believe is a
truly original developmental direction, I will also note that we've
effectively eliminated the need for occupants to pre-breath before
EVAs!"
L699[22:27:08] *
Scolar_Visari seriously ponders if the TIE Fighters lacked
vehicular life support simply because Sienar Fleet Systems was
running behind schedule on the system's design.
L700[22:27:18] <tawny> haha
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L702[22:28:13] <Scolar_Visari> Luckily for
them, they were able to convince Lord Vader that it was a
feature.
L703[22:29:36] <BenjaminK> hey
L704[22:29:38] <BenjaminK> he doesn't
need
L705[22:29:39] <BenjaminK> it
L706[22:29:56] <Scolar_Visari>
"Engineer! Where is the life support system on these
blueprints?" "Well, ah, you see, Lord Vader, truth is we
were running be- I mean running BRILLIANT ideas at the design
bureau and decided that, ah, our pilots would be more productive if
they simply carried their life support gear on their persons as you
do!"
L707[22:30:48] <Scolar_Visari>
"Should we have told him we didn't have any more room for a
hyperdrive?"
L708[22:31:34] <UmbralRaptor> This leads
to questions about the end of episode IV
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L710[22:32:04] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptor: The TIE Advanced fighters (as well as teh TIE X-1)
were all established long ago as having hyperdrives, which makes
sense given how much larger they are.
L711[22:32:29] <UmbralRaptor> ah
L712[22:32:45] <Scolar_Visari> Amusingly,
the prequels established a trend of hyperdrive lacking parasite
fighters among the Jedi order, who had to use larger ships or dock
with hyperdrive modules ala Episodes II and III.
L713[22:34:17] <Kalpa> Welp, look at the
time
L714[22:35:33] <Kalpa> Supernovy: Espoo is
pronounced like... and I don't even remember how, because I had a
good idea about this few weeks ago but you just weren't around for
it!
L716[22:36:08] <Supernovy> Kalpa: oh
dear.
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L718[22:37:40] <Kalpa> Supernovy: I
remember! The 'Es' is like 's' in the alphabet, poo is like 'paw'.
So say S-paw, and you get Espoo.
L719[22:38:00] <Supernovy> Like the
network we're on right now. Ish.
L720[22:38:12] <Supernovy> EspooNet
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L722[22:41:22] <Kalpa> Nah, this would be
more like Espönet
L723[22:41:26] <Scolar_Visari>
Eshpoo
L724[22:41:43] <Scolar_Visari> Oh, wait,
that's the Sean Connery version.
L725[22:42:39] <TheKosmonaut> Those Jedi
Starfighters were so cool
L726[22:42:45] <Kalpa> And there you go,
now you also learned the difference between Ö and O !
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