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L2[00:03:52] <Draconiator> Trying to build a
proper shuttle....how the hell did they keep the real thing from
flipping over?
 
L3[00:06:58] <Althego> control theory!
 
L4[00:07:22] <Althego> also engines with
high gimbal range to counteract com movement
 
L5[00:07:46] <Draconiator> yeah I think I
answered my own question, I seem to remember the shuttle engines
pointed at an ange out the back.
 
L6[00:14:37] <Althego> what i dont
understand uis the oms
 
L7[00:14:45] <Althego> those are not at an
angle yet they are on top
 
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L9[00:14:51] <Althego> how did that
work?
 
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L12[00:33:04] <taniwha> gimbal, most
likely
 
L13[00:33:26] <taniwha> that, or the CoM
was pretty high (that tail fin)
 
L14[00:33:54] <taniwha> (remember, the main
engines fired with a big tank strapped to the bottom, OMS without
the tank)
 
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L17[01:05:02] <transitbiker> need ot keep
an eye on my craft floating below 80 km pe
 
L18[01:05:30] <transitbiker> seems i keep
losing some below that
 
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L23[01:20:07] <Althego> the talfin cant be
that heavy. it would have needed to be heavier than the whole
shuttle
 
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L26[01:21:28] <Althego> they are above the
top of the cargo bay
 
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L29[01:26:51] <taniwha> it would have been
heavy enough to pull the CoM up somewhere the gimbals would be
effective
 
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L35[01:40:16] <transitbiker> my newly built
and launched echostar 1 will now be tested for network
connectivity
 
L36[01:42:13] <transitbiker> and it's
doing the exact job it was designed for, connecting all the craft
with each other and kerbin
 
L37[01:42:32] <transitbiker> now to launch
a few more to shore up the network
 
L38[01:46:41] <transitbiker> i should
probably put 3-4 in polar orbit around kerbol at varying
distances
 
L39[01:46:57] <transitbiker> few blank out
times
 
L40[01:48:04] <transitbiker> the tail fin
of the orbiter was not heavy aside from the structual strength
needed to function
 
L41[01:50:08] <transitbiker> the main mass
of the orbiter is off to the rear
 
L42[01:50:31] <transitbiker> that's
where the pumps, fuel piping, engines, and OMS pods are
 
L43[01:51:22] <transitbiker> i bet the tail
is nothing but an aluminum box with smoothed edges
 
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L70[04:17:22] <kmath> YouTube - Microsoft
Bob Experience: Was It Really THAT Bad?
 
L71[04:24:26] <Althego> hehe
 
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L73[04:24:31] <Althego> probably it
was
 
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L88[06:05:52] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Hello
 
L89[06:05:55] <Mod9000> Hello,
SpacePlaneArchitect
 
L90[06:06:24] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Mod9000, what is the current count of connected users on this
server?
 
L91[06:06:34] <Althego> you mean the
channel
 
L92[06:06:40] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Yea
 
L93[06:06:44] <Mat2ch> the MK3-1 pod...
it's finally straight /o\
 
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L95[06:07:02] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
._.
 
L96[06:07:16] <Fluburtur> oh yeah I need to
try the new update
 
L98[06:07:38] <kmath> YouTube - Kamov Ka-52
Alligator "Hokum-B" 1/72 Italeri - Helicopter Model
 
L99[06:07:47] <Althego> 221 people on this
channel
 
L100[06:07:51] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: do you
need a craft file for ejecting a Kerbal out of a plane? :D
 
L101[06:08:10] <Fluburtur> eh I made
several planes with stock ejection seat
 
L102[06:08:14] <Fluburtur> usually
doesn't end well
 
L103[06:08:23] <Althego> what stock
ejection seat?
 
L104[06:08:35] <Althego> sepratrons on
command seay?
 
L105[06:08:35] <Fluburtur> but one of my
test planes became a part of my catalogue
 
L106[06:08:39] <Fluburtur> yeah
 
L107[06:08:56] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
made a escape vessel
 
L108[06:09:21] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Heat
shield and 2 of those outside seats
 
L109[06:09:33] <SpacePlaneArchitect> also
a parachute on the top
 
L110[06:09:45] <Althego> who needs
parachute :)
 
L111[06:09:54] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
-_-
 
L112[06:10:11] <Althego> or
heatshield
 
L113[06:10:24] <Althego> but remember from
1.4 the kerbals can have parachutes
 
L114[06:10:34] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
lol
 
L115[06:10:41] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Im
sad
 
L116[06:10:49] <SpacePlaneArchitect> My pc
is broken
 
L117[06:10:56] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Power
problems
 
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L119[06:23:36] <Draconiator> Checking out
1.4
 
L120[06:23:56] <Fluburtur> uh the print
bed of my printer heats up quite fast even for being glass
 
L121[06:24:04] <Fluburtur> so that's
nice I guess
 
L122[06:24:53] <Fluburtur> I hope my save
won' tbe broken
 
L123[06:26:14] <Fluburtur> was launching
the game in french wtf
 
L124[06:26:20] <Fluburtur> I want my games
in english
 
L125[06:26:25] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: they
kept the old parts, but they're now hidden.
 
L126[06:26:49] <Mat2ch> I start it with
LC=ALL, because otherwise the config files get messed up. Not sure
if this is still necessary though
 
L127[06:26:57] <Fluburtur> but the tanks
and stuff are tweakable now arent they?
 
L128[06:27:10] <Fluburtur> so I can just
edit my old rockets to look new
 
L129[06:27:38] <Mat2ch> Not sure if
that's possible, but worth a try
 
L130[06:27:54] <Fluburtur> yeah I
don't want to have to rebuild everything
 
L131[06:28:11] <Fluburtur> also my koyuz
heavy deserves an upgrade
 
L132[06:28:15] <Fluburtur> to look
better
 
L133[06:29:47] <Althego> hehe automatic
language
 
L134[06:30:03] <Althego> when german
dreadnought players couldntturn off the automatic german
localization
 
L135[06:32:28] <legion> Fractured Space is
better, imho
 
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L137[06:40:33] <Draconiator> Particle
system looks a lot nicer, re-entry flames are smoother
 
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L139[06:41:05] <Fluburtur> new jet engine
sounds too I think
 
L140[06:41:33] <Althego> what, where did
you get that from?
 
L141[06:41:35] <mrcus> It's out?
:O
 
L142[06:41:39] <Althego> lol no
 
L143[06:41:40] <Fluburtur> yeah
 
L144[06:41:49] <Althego> what
 
L145[06:42:07] <Althego> hah it is
 
L146[06:42:16] <Althego> 13 hours
ago
 
L147[06:42:18] <Fluburtur> ooo
parachute!
 
L148[06:42:21] <Althego> it was
tuesday
 
L149[06:42:24] <Althego> i thought next
week
 
L150[06:42:31] <Althego> at the same time
with the expanson
 
L151[06:42:50] <Althego> and i am almost
finished with the career
 
L152[06:43:01] <Fluburtur> now kerbals can
jump off mountains and parachute their way down
 
L153[06:43:17] <mrcus> Oh no, all my mods
are gonna break :'(
 
L155[06:43:45] <mrcus> But yay! :D
 
L156[06:46:00] <Althego> haha 1.4.1 comes
out next week
 
L157[06:46:14] <APlayer> Whoa!
 
L158[06:46:15] <Althego> probably for
modding
 
L159[06:46:46] *
APlayer is only sad that he'll have to wait for months before
his mods are running on 1.4 
L160[06:48:32] *
SpacePlaneArchitect is sad that his PC is broken 
L161[06:48:43] <Draconiator> I gave up
updating....I'm still running 1.2.2 as my modded one.
 
L162[06:49:00] <mrcus> Althego: Yeah,
there's apparently an IVA issue with the new pod
 
L163[06:49:03] *
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L166[06:53:46] <Althego> no real changelog
about the new parts
 
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L169[06:57:39] <mrcus> They soft removed
the old, huge 2.5m decoupler
 
L170[06:57:53] <Althego> why
 
L171[06:58:06] <Althego> i never use steck
separators, they levae debris
 
L172[06:58:20] <Althego> or rather there
should be a replacement
 
L173[06:58:23] <Althego> enough for
me
 
L174[06:58:35] <mrcus> They added a new
one :)
 
L175[06:58:53] <Althego> and i liked it, i
usually had some stuff hidden inside it
 
L176[06:59:09] <Althego> long before there
wa a service bay. but with that you still dont need service
bay
 
L177[06:59:38] <mrcus> Just use a 2.5m
reaction wheel
 
L178[07:02:02] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: the new
jet afterburner engine sound sounds like a hair dryer...
 
L179[07:02:11] <Althego> hehe
 
L180[07:02:27] <Althego> how does the new
particle system look like?
 
L181[07:02:41] <Fluburtur> why can't
we have grey or green tanks
 
L182[07:02:53] <Althego> you can have
gold
 
L183[07:02:59] <Fluburtur> wea
 
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L185[07:03:13] <Fluburtur> I need to make
a block 3 version of the koyuz heavy now
 
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L187[07:03:21] <Althego> gold, probably
amarrian influence :9
 
L188[07:03:34] <Althego> that, or
goauld
 
L189[07:03:53] <Althego> and i dotn care
where the aposrophe is, because it stands for nothing
 
L191[07:07:47] <taniwha> Fluburtur:
because nobody has made green textures for the tanks :P
 
L192[07:08:12] <Fluburtur> I want a green
and grey rocket
 
L193[07:10:12] <Fluburtur> also I swapped
the orange tanks of my koyuz for white ones and it somehow looks
less nice
 
L194[07:10:51] <taniwha> because white is
actually a horrible color
 
L195[07:11:30] <Fluburtur> also there is
grey fairings but no grey tanks
 
L196[07:11:37] <Fluburtur> I won't be
happy until I have grey tanks
 
L197[07:12:47] *
APlayer gives Fluburtur mods 
L198[07:13:04] <RandomJeb> is there a mod
to paint your craft again?
 
L199[07:13:05] <Fluburtur> no
 
L200[07:13:24] <RandomJeb> somebody needs
to fix kerbpaint and update the textures
 
L201[07:13:37] <Althego> probably needs a
complete rewrite
 
L202[07:13:38] <VanDisaster> I gave
whoever was doing that shader replacement mod my paint stuff
 
L203[07:13:45] <VanDisaster> but I
don't think he's interested in integrating
 
L204[07:13:56] <VanDisaster> can't
run two shader replacement mods :S
 
L206[07:14:43] <mrcus> This is great
 
L207[07:14:58] <Althego> ;lol
 
L208[07:18:42] <mrcus> oh no, the raceways
are gone from the orange tank
 
L209[07:18:53] <mrcus> How long until
someone makes a raceway mod
 
L210[07:19:04] <Mat2ch> Oh, the IVA is
really missing and the new particle effects can be seen through the
ship...
 
L211[07:19:30] <mrcus> Mat2ch: I love
this, it feels like the Early Access days
 
L212[07:21:28] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Spizy
cheeze help me make Spizy Beatz for you
 
L213[07:21:43] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Spizy
cheeze helps me make Spizy Beatz for you
 
L214[07:21:59] <mrcus> I mean that in a
good way :P
 
L215[07:22:08] <Mat2ch> mrcus: I
don't know. In the Early Access days there was more stuff
added in newer versions
 
L216[07:22:36] <mrcus> True, but then they
spent years fine tuning it
 
L217[07:22:56] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
will stay on 1.3.1
 
L218[07:23:06] <SpacePlaneArchitect> i
might even move down to 1.3
 
L219[07:23:18] <mrcus> With such a
fantastic modding community I don't feel like I'm really
missing out on new features.
 
L220[07:23:53] <Mat2ch> well, the RSS mods
look mostly abandoned. :|
 
L221[07:24:06] <Mat2ch> After a while I
need a greater challange. Duna is too easy :P
 
L222[07:25:23] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Those
who will move down to 1.3 write "Me"
 
L223[07:26:27] <SpacePlaneArchitect> No
one?
 
L224[07:26:57] <mrcus> Why,
SpacePlaneArchitect ?
 
L225[07:36:15] <Althego> down?
 
L226[07:36:24] <Althego> i am already on
1.3.1 and intend to upgrade to 1.4
 
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L228[07:46:08] <Mat2ch> I'm already
on 1.4...
 
L229[07:46:12] <Mat2ch> nothing special
there
 
L230[07:46:18] <Mat2ch> old mods seem to
work fine
 
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L239[08:50:39] <Fluburtur> im putting the
wing floats on my canadair
 
L240[08:52:29] <Althego> where is the
livestream
 
L241[08:52:52] <Fluburtur> you want me to
stream that?
 
L242[08:53:03] <Althego> i am not really
into livestream
 
L243[08:53:10] <Althego> but lot better
than people playing ksp
 
L244[08:53:29] <Althego> ksp is extremely
boring to watch, while the player is fumbling around in the editor
for hours
 
L245[08:53:42] <Arcan> literally the best
song ever
 
L247[08:53:44] <kmath> YouTube -
Interstellar - No time for caution cover by Grissini Project
 
L248[08:54:07] <Arcan> the only way this
would be better is if i had actual subwoofers
 
L250[08:55:37] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
mrcus, sorry for not answering, i was AFK. Because most mods i use
are for 1.3
 
L251[08:55:39] <ve2dmn> (mods: it's
safe, just mostly stupid)
 
L252[08:56:14] <Althego> what isthat
 
L253[08:56:18] <Althego> rotating
flower?
 
L254[08:56:38] <ve2dmn> Althego: activate
sound
 
L255[08:56:47] <Althego> there was some
music
 
L256[08:56:52] <ve2dmn> It's the
oldest meme in the book
 
L257[08:56:53] <Althego> so i turned it
off
 
L258[08:57:11] <Althego> the oldest memes
probably at lest several thousand years old
 
L259[08:57:26] <Althego> like mother in
law jokes or something
 
L261[08:57:51] <Althego> 2 minutes until i
leave the office
 
L262[08:57:59] <ve2dmn> ... ok, the oldest
internet meme... which is in the same timeframe as
ALL-YOUR-BASE
 
L263[08:58:54] <ve2dmn> Know Your meme
says 1999
 
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L270[09:18:24] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: what
did you did to make it hydrofuge?
 
L271[09:19:16] <ve2dmn> wait...
'hydrofuge' is a false friend... The correct translation
would be 'waterproof' or 'damp-proof'
 
L272[09:19:23] <Fluburtur> yeah
 
L273[09:19:31] <Fluburtur> the plane is
foam with tape everywehre
 
L274[09:19:40] <Fluburtur> the only place
water can get in is around the cockpit
 
L275[09:19:48] <ve2dmn> no
cardboard?
 
L276[09:19:55] <Fluburtur> and even then
the receiver is out of the water
 
L277[09:20:01] <Fluburtur> the tail is
partly cardboard
 
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L279[09:22:24] <Fluburtur> I kinda want to
go do a test drive on water with the floats
 
L280[09:24:11] <Fluburtur> but I
don't have any charged battery
 
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L288[09:33:00] <kmath> YouTube - Making a
Lego Powered Lazy Susan Photography Turntable
 
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L291[09:46:07] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Im so
bored
 
L292[09:49:37] <Ezko> do some spaceplane
architecture
 
L293[09:49:51] <ve2dmn>
SpacePlaneArchitect: take up kOS ?
 
L294[09:54:19] <Fluburtur> when are the
next steam sales?
 
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L296[09:56:26] <VanDisaster> usually a
spring sale I think?
 
L297[09:56:45] <Fluburtur> because then I
might get the ksp extension and also a citites skyline one
 
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L302[10:01:01] <Tank2333> Hi guys
 
L303[10:02:23] <Gasher> hi
 
L304[10:02:28] <Mod9000> Hello,
Gasher
 
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L307[10:13:04] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Im
bored because my PC is broken
 
L308[10:14:49] <Althego> fix it
 
L309[10:15:34] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
cant find the reason of power failure
 
L310[10:16:06] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Its
ok, but running it when it has power failures will make me buy a
new one
 
L311[10:16:26] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Because the PC will break totally
 
L312[10:16:55] <SpacePlaneArchitect> But
the pc can be played on
 
L313[10:17:05] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I use
my laptop now
 
L314[10:18:19] <Fluburtur> did they change
the atmo model?
 
L315[10:18:35] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: I saw
the first few seconds and thought to myself "He didn't
build a turntable, did he?"
 
L316[10:18:37] <Mat2ch> :D
 
L317[10:18:48] <Mat2ch> And that's
not how the MMX will be ready anytime soon
 
L318[10:18:53] <Fluburtur> the madman he
did it
 
L319[10:19:10] <Fluburtur> did you see the
floats on my canadair?
 
L320[10:19:35] <Mat2ch> I did see them,
but not mounted or painted
 
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L323[10:22:03] <Mat2ch> Oh, nice!
 
L324[10:22:10] <Mat2ch> The motor mounts
want some paint, too! ;)
 
L325[10:22:20] <Fluburtur> yeah
 
L326[10:22:31] <Fluburtur> now that I have
my 3d printer I could make some scale cowlings
 
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L330[10:26:48] <Fluburtur> I need to make
a holder fo my paintbrush too
 
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L332[10:29:20] <fakeTank2333>
SpacePlaneArchitect do you have random shutdowns? Or what do you
mean b power failure
 
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L338[10:40:38] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
mean that some places dont get power
 
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L341[10:41:26] <ve2dmn>
SpacePlaneArchitect: what do you mean??
 
L343[10:43:17] <Althego> what do you mean
flash gordon approaching
 
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L345[10:44:59] <SpacePlaneArchitect> The
power just disappears in some cables
 
L346[10:45:05] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
brb
 
L347[10:51:00] <ve2dmn> Althego: OPEN
FIRE! ALL WEAPONS!
 
L348[10:51:11] <Althego> pew pew pew
 
L349[10:52:18] <ve2dmn> Althego: reminds
me of the H*R joke about 'The evil Blue lasers!"
 
L351[10:53:15] <ve2dmn> "Ho my god!
They are gonna blow up the oceans!"
 
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L354[10:54:32] <Althego> hah,
sausages
 
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L356[10:59:12] <VanDisaster> is it
tuesday?
 
L357[10:59:24] <Althego> no,
 
L358[10:59:26] <Althego> ++
 
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L360[10:59:35] <Guest97551> guyz
 
L361[10:59:40] <Althego> _
 
L362[10:59:46] <Guest97551> somebody use
dmp plugin ?
 
L363[11:00:03] <Guest97551> for muliplayer
kps
 
L364[11:00:07] <Guest97551> ksp]
 
L365[11:00:09] <Guest97551> *
 
L366[11:00:41] <Guest97551> beacuse with
new engine update
 
L367[11:00:48] <Guest97551> cant be
used
 
L368[11:01:05] <Althego> the fate of
people who use mods
 
L369[11:03:15] <VanDisaster> wait at least
a month before updating if you use mods...
 
L370[11:05:52] <Althego> how can they call
this update the same as the previous one?
 
L371[11:05:56] <Althego> it is
annoying
 
L372[11:06:35] <VanDisaster> as far as
I'm concerned it's called KSP 1.4 :p
 
L373[11:07:13] <Blaank> What's going
on now?
 
L374[11:07:28] <Althego> heyayaya,
what's going on
 
L375[11:07:38] <Althego> 1.4 is going
on
 
L376[11:07:59] <Althego> i wanted to
finish this career in 1.3.1, was almost finished
 
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L378[11:08:05] <SpacePlaneArchitect> im
back
 
L379[11:08:08] <Althego> first i need to
merge the config files
 
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L381[11:08:13] <Althego> i hate that
step
 
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L383[11:10:04] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
ve2dmn, the computer is running fine, the problem is that sometimes
there is no power in some internal cables
 
L384[11:10:18] <SpacePlaneArchitect> And
im afraid to run it
 
L385[11:11:30] <ve2dmn> I'm afraid I
don't understand 100%... What happens then? The hard drive
stop? The computer reboot out fo the blue? The entire thing
shutdown? It freeze and start beeping?
 
L386[11:11:57] <VanDisaster> if a hdd
powers down it goes "urrrrh... where's my
files"
 
L387[11:12:02] <VanDisaster> for a few
mins, possibly
 
L388[11:12:18] <VanDisaster> and then
maybe "urrrh, I don't know what to do now!"
 
L389[11:12:50] <VanDisaster> "no
power in some cables" is a very odd fault
 
L390[11:13:04] <VanDisaster> usually
it's "argh the PSU went up in smoke"
 
L391[11:13:31] <ve2dmn> I had cases where
there was not enough power for all the HDDs I had, but then it
would not boot at all
 
L392[11:14:19] <VanDisaster> HDDs only
take a few watts... maybe there's some loose wiring in a
plug?
 
L393[11:14:32] <SpacePlaneArchitect> No it
just lags
 
L394[11:14:34] <ve2dmn> And I know what
the problem was mostly: crappy power supply didn't have enough
power to spin up all the drives along with the DVD
 
L395[11:14:42] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Freeze*
 
L396[11:14:45] <Althego> but hdds take 5v
too, isnt it?
 
L397[11:14:46] <VanDisaster> hmm
 
L398[11:14:48] <VanDisaster> yeah
 
L399[11:14:55] <Althego> the motherboards
mostly needs 12
 
L400[11:14:58] <ve2dmn>
SpacePlaneArchitect: sounds more like a dying HDD
 
L401[11:15:01] <VanDisaster> you can run
HDDs off usb power
 
L402[11:15:05] <ve2dmn> Althego:
exact
 
L403[11:15:12] <VanDisaster> yeah that
sounds more like the drive controller going "argle"
 
L404[11:15:30] <SpacePlaneArchitect> i had
only one HDD connected at that moment
 
L405[11:15:33] <VanDisaster> unless
it's trying to read bad sectors... boot it up & run
chkdsk
 
L406[11:15:50] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
have windows 10 on it
 
L407[11:15:54] <ve2dmn>
SpacePlaneArchitect: Well, it will be dead soon. I hope you have
backups
 
L408[11:16:06] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Dont
worry, its fresh
 
L409[11:16:16] <ve2dmn> Still not
impossible
 
L410[11:16:40] <ve2dmn> I saw drives dead
after 6month, and I have drives that lasted 10+ years
 
L411[11:16:48] <Althego> maybe try hdd
guardian to see smart info
 
L412[11:17:06] <VanDisaster> I've had
drives ith some bad sectors that settled down to last years
too
 
L413[11:18:05] <VanDisaster> heh one
workplace had 12 WD drives go bad in a week, put me off WD for
ages
 
L414[11:18:24] <ve2dmn>
SpacePlaneArchitect: I used to work for a small company that had
lots and lots of computers. The Hard drives are the thing that
usually failed first
 
L415[11:18:30] <VanDisaster> got a couple
been used for 15 years now
 
L416[11:18:30] <ve2dmn> Power supply
second
 
L417[11:18:43] <Blaank> Drives can be dead
on arrival, die in 3 days, keep going for 10 years.
 
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L419[11:19:17] <ve2dmn> Blaank: Google had
a nice whitepaper on the subject. The graph over (date of death)
was a nice curve
 
L420[11:19:32] <Blaank> There is a special
name for the curve that they make with dying and time running. Lots
at the start as manufacturing faults and lots at the end from
wearing down.
 
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L423[11:28:17] <Blaank> Surviving Mars
looks interesting.
 
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L427[11:47:31] <Arcan> is it confirmed
that a long-term mars colony would need to be underground?
 
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L429[11:52:50] <Mat2ch> Arcan: depends on
the shielding...
 
L430[11:53:01] <Fluburtur> I made the tip
of the nose of my canadair red
 
L431[11:53:05] <Fluburtur> looks pretty
nice
 
L432[11:53:21] <Arcan> but you could not
live e.g. in inflatable habitats on the surface for long-term
habitation?
 
L433[11:53:58] <kubi> I'd me under
ground
 
L434[11:54:05] <SnoopJeDi> you could, if
you wanted to spend a whole bunch of money dealing with the
radiation problem
 
L435[11:54:07] <kubi> peasants can live
outside
 
L436[11:54:10] <SnoopJeDi> or dig a really
cheap hole
 
L437[11:55:49] <Althego> hehe the
baguette, dumpling and doughnut tanks
 
L438[11:55:51] <Althego> i like
those
 
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L440[11:56:59] <SpacePlaneArchitect> When
my pc is okay, i will download KSP 1.3 and mods first
 
L441[11:57:15] <SpacePlaneArchitect> And
send a base to Laythe first
 
L442[11:57:21] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
without cheats
 
L443[11:57:34] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
learned alot from ksp vids
 
L445[11:58:27] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
...Can it even fly?
 
L446[11:58:39] <Fluburtur> yeah
 
L447[11:58:43] <Fluburtur> it flew
already
 
L449[11:59:01] <kmath> YouTube - canadair
"landing" on water
 
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L454[12:04:07] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Whoa
 
L455[12:04:10] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
noice
 
L456[12:06:24] <Fluburtur> thanks
 
L457[12:07:10] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Is
there isolation on the bottom of the plane?
 
L458[12:08:37] <Fluburtur> a whole lot of
fiber tape
 
L459[12:08:50] <Fluburtur> you can see in
some of the pictures
 
L460[12:12:51] <Althego> he what happened
to the kerbal faces?
 
L461[12:12:59] <Althego> ah probably the
iva of the new command pod
 
L462[12:13:25] <Althego> new panther sound
confirmed to suck
 
L463[12:13:30] <Althego> it is like a
vacuum cleaner
 
L464[12:13:55] <kubi> wooo
 
L465[12:13:56] <kubi> 1.4
 
L466[12:14:11] <kubi> what's new?
:)
 
L467[12:14:23] <kubi> multi core
boost
 
L468[12:14:27] <kubi> or?
 
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L470[12:15:56] <Althego> new engine
 
L471[12:15:58] <Althego> few new
parts
 
L472[12:16:07] <Althego> some new lookign
parts
 
L473[12:17:02] <Althego> new sounds
 
L474[12:20:36] <SpacePlaneArchitect> WHAT
PARTS??
 
L475[12:20:42] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
NEED TO KNOW
 
L476[12:21:04] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
ALREADY GOT DISSAPOINTED FROM THE 1.3.1 UPDATE
 
L477[12:21:09] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
ATLEAST NOW I CAN PREPARE
 
L478[12:21:23] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
*Breathes in and out 5 times*
 
L479[12:21:26] <kubi> new engine
means?
 
L480[12:21:27] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Bring
it in
 
L481[12:21:42] <SpacePlaneArchitect> What
new parts?
 
L482[12:21:45] <Althego> 1.3.1 was
better
 
L483[12:22:21] <Althego> the round 8 got 2
companions, the 3 are called the doughnut, baguette and
dumbpling
 
L484[12:27:47] <kubi> can it run properly
in 3840x2160?
 
L485[12:28:16] <Althego> sorry i can go up
to only 2560x1600, that works
 
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L487[12:28:40] <kubi> trying now
 
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L489[12:28:48] <kubi> without mods, of
course
 
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L492[12:29:47] <Althego> how is that
parent button supposed to work?
 
L493[12:30:24] <kubi> it seems
smooth
 
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L497[12:32:05] <kubi> might be because it
is vanilla
 
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L499[12:32:13] <kubi> not really
better
 
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L501[12:32:40] <kubi> but it is a pile of
bugs
 
L502[12:32:53] <kubi> not showing the
actual icon in the research center
 
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L504[12:33:10] <kubi> gui glits on the top
row in editor
 
L505[12:33:12] <kubi> etc
 
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L508[12:33:34] <kubi> so, let's call
it 1.4alpha1
 
L509[12:33:44] <Althego> the parachute is
cool
 
L510[12:33:56] <Althego> next we we get
1.4.1
 
L511[12:33:57] <kubi> but the game is half
useless
 
L512[12:34:06] <Althego> probably the new
cabin iva will be fixed too
 
L513[12:34:28] <ve2dmn> Althego: broken
IVA? Yeah it's gonna be fixed
 
L514[12:34:32] <Althego> cant loop with
the parachute
 
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L517[12:35:17] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Ive
made a ship called Aurora
 
L518[12:35:28] <ve2dmn> Good thing I told
Steam not to auto-update KSP
 
L519[12:35:50] <kubi> you should have a
copy of the game anyway and start from cmdline instead of
steam
 
L520[12:36:20] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Why?
You could choose another version and dowload it
 
L521[12:36:21] <VanDisaster> one of the
few games you can actually stop windows steam updating
 
L522[12:36:36] <UmbralRaptor> Copy the
game folder from Steam to somewhere else for backup purposes.
 
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L524[12:36:43] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
believe you can switch between versions
 
L525[12:36:56] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptor: I
did that to keep different Mod packages
 
L526[12:37:01] <kubi> I have a number of
copies
 
L527[12:37:05] <kubi> different mod
sets
 
L528[12:37:22] <ve2dmn> like, 1 install
with mods X,Y,Z and the other one with W,X & Y
 
L529[12:37:32] <kubi> yes
 
L530[12:37:38] <ve2dmn> yeah, same
 
L531[12:37:40] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
wat
 
L532[12:38:09] <ve2dmn>
SpacePlaneArchitect: there is no DRM on KSP. You can just copy the
folder over to someplace else
 
L533[12:38:43] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
fuk
 
L534[12:39:33] <VanDisaster> I wonder how
many installs I have now
 
L535[12:39:34] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Have
you ever built a ship?
 
L536[12:39:48] <VanDisaster> I wrote a
bunch of stuff to manage virtual installs in the end :p
 
L537[12:41:08] <VanDisaster> 45,
apparently
 
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L539[12:42:57] <SpacePlaneArchitect> You
could add a counter that would count every Kerbal Space Program
folder
 
L540[12:43:12] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Its
easy
 
L541[12:43:19] <SpacePlaneArchitect> look
it up on the internet
 
L542[12:44:44] <VanDisaster> yeah, far
from that simple
 
L543[12:47:36] <Deddly>
SpacePlaneArchitect, please don't use bad language in
here
 
L544[12:48:31] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
okay
 
L545[12:48:45] <Deddly> Thank you.
It's the same rules as the forum
 
L546[12:49:44] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Deddly, do you like building Rockets or Spaceplanes?
 
L547[12:49:52] <Deddly> Spaceplanes
mostly
 
L548[12:50:05] <APlayer> Deadly ones.
:P
 
L549[12:50:07] <Deddly> I would ask you
the same question, but I think I know the answer ;)
 
L550[12:51:52] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
like building rockets and planes.
 
L551[12:52:43] <SpacePlaneArchitect> but
when i build Space Ships, yep those that are in Sci-fi movies, i
use the SpacePlane Hangar
 
L552[12:53:54] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Whats
ironic, is that i use cheats to get them on orbit
 
L553[12:54:03] <SpacePlaneArchitect> But
now im bored with that
 
L554[12:54:11] <Deddly> Eew
 
L555[12:54:27] *
APlayer prefers the old-fashioned tank-filled-with-explosives
method 
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L558[12:54:34] <kmath> YouTube - THE
CUBOYD - THE RETURN [18.5]
 
L559[12:54:47] <Deddly> I am building a
large ship and it's too large to get into orbit, so my next
challenge is to make it in parts that can dock together
 
L560[12:55:06] <APlayer> Ooh, that's
the fun part of designing ships
 
L561[12:55:12] <Deddly> Indeed
 
L562[12:55:14] <pixelfox> hi there
:)
 
L563[12:55:23] <Deddly> Hi pixelfox
 
L564[12:55:24] <SpacePlaneArchitect> But i
prefer rockets
 
L565[12:55:40] <APlayer> By the way,
Deddly, how are your mod adventures going?
 
L566[12:55:44] <pixelfox> how is everyone
?
 
L567[12:55:50] <APlayer> And 'evening
pixelfox!
 
L568[12:55:54] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Once
i activated the infinite power and fuel cheats, and guess what
engine i mounted?
 
L569[12:56:07] <pixelfox> a nice ksp
evening in uk :)
 
L570[12:56:08] <ve2dmn>
SpacePlaneArchitect: ion?
 
L571[12:56:09] <Deddly> APlayer, mods as
in installing mods in KSP?
 
L572[12:56:15] <APlayer> Yeah
 
L573[12:56:21] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
emergency escape engine
 
L574[12:56:31] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
believe its called like that
 
L575[12:56:32] <Deddly> APlayer, Well,
1.3.1 came out...
 
L576[12:56:39] <pixelfox> i build epic
star cruisers
 
L577[12:56:44] <Deddly> ...and I never got
around to updating the mods
 
L578[12:56:44] <APlayer> Launch Escape
System, LES for short
 
L579[12:56:49] <Deddly> Now 1.4 is
out
 
L580[12:56:50] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Yes
 
L581[12:56:59] <APlayer> Deddly: Aww,
it's a shame
 
L582[12:57:08] <SpacePlaneArchitect> LES
carrying a pod was fun)
 
L583[12:57:10] <Deddly> APlayer, I did
like KER though
 
L584[12:57:24] <APlayer> TBH, I deem the
game unplayable without KER by now
 
L585[12:57:27] <Deddly> APlayer, and I
like Docking Alignment thingy
 
L586[12:57:41] <ve2dmn> APlayer: +1
 
L587[12:57:58] <APlayer> That's a
nice addition for nighttime dockings, but I guess DPAI is
optional
 
L588[12:58:06] <APlayer> For me, that
is
 
L589[12:58:29] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
once reached mun
 
L590[12:58:40] <APlayer> That's too
few times :P
 
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L592[12:58:42] <SpacePlaneArchitect> But i
had the infinite fuel cheat on
 
L593[12:59:02] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
didnt know how to fly to other planets
 
L594[12:59:11] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
refused to watch tutorials
 
L595[12:59:17] <APlayer> I think I can
guess what happened next
 
L596[12:59:31] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
landed successfully
 
L597[12:59:39] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Lost
a landing leg
 
L598[12:59:49] <SpacePlaneArchitect> But
the crew survived
 
L599[12:59:53] <Deddly>
SpacePlaneArchitect, the key to doing it without cheats is to make
the craft as small and light as possible
 
L600[12:59:55] <Althego> who came up with
the new jet engine noise?
 
L601[13:00:06] <Althego> needs a virtual
buttkick
 
L602[13:00:41] *
APlayer gives Althego a virtual buttkick 
L603[13:01:02] <APlayer> (Because
"<Althego> needs a virtual buttkick") :P
 
L604[13:01:02] <Althego> it wasnt me
 
L605[13:01:26] <APlayer> Very
grammatically correct composition of username and message
 
L606[13:02:06] <Althego> haha, huge bug,
makes the game unplayable
 
L607[13:02:14] <Althego> the decoupler is
the old one in the menu screen
 
L608[13:02:29] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Deddlyy, i already know that
 
L609[13:02:33] <APlayer>
SpacePlaneArchitect: Engineering proper, cheat-free missions is so
much more fun. I strongly recommend you give it a serious try, and
if you get stuck, we are here to help you
 
L610[13:02:48] <Althego> why would you
want to cheat your missions?
 
L611[13:03:13] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I was
a noob at that 2 weeks ago
 
L612[13:03:24] <SpacePlaneArchitect> At
flying crafts
 
L613[13:03:30] <ve2dmn> "There is no
wrong way to play" <--- which is why you should try them
all
 
L614[13:03:47] <Althego> when i got the
game back in 0.24 it took me a week to realize you can save
:)
 
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L616[13:03:49] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Now
im ready to face challenges
 
L617[13:03:53] <APlayer>
SpacePlaneArchitect: If you're bad at piloting, I suggest you
use MechJeb
 
L618[13:04:00] <Althego> and i was flying
moon missions
 
L619[13:04:03] <APlayer> It is an awesome
all-around autopilot and maths mod
 
L620[13:04:06] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
know the MechJeb mod
 
L621[13:04:28] <APlayer> Because, as I
said, building rockets is /the/ fun of the game
 
L622[13:04:37] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Would
be nice if it had an real autopilot to auto maneuver
 
L623[13:04:43] <APlayer> It does
have
 
L624[13:04:49] <SpacePlaneArchitect> It
does?
 
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L626[13:04:54] <Althego> or at least you
have to believe it is fun, because most of it is building the
rocket
 
L627[13:04:57] <APlayer> You set up
maneuver nodes and let it execute them
 
L628[13:05:01] <Althego> only like 5% of
the time is the actual mission
 
L629[13:05:12] <Deddly> Althego, same here
- first successful moon landing and return with no quick saves...
that is still my favourite memory of KSP
 
L630[13:05:21] <APlayer> Or you make it
set up maneuver nodes for certain cases, such as interplanetary
transfers
 
L631[13:05:33] <SpacePlaneArchitect> When
my pc is ok, i will set off to laythe
 
L632[13:05:36] <Althego> my first failed
moon landing was next to a mun arch
 
L633[13:05:47] <Althego> i hit the surface
with incredible speed :)
 
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L635[13:06:02] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Do
you think thats a bit too much?
 
L636[13:06:04] <APlayer> My first Mun
landing happened in the demo
 
L637[13:06:29] <Deddly> APlayer,
same
 
L638[13:06:31] <APlayer> Ended up having
to land a three-seater plus probe core craft pin-point next to a
stranded Jebediah
 
L639[13:06:36] <Deddly> And I forgot
landing legs
 
L640[13:06:44] <APlayer> It was horrible,
but it worked eventually
 
L641[13:06:44] <Deddly> I had never landed
a craft before
 
L642[13:06:58] <Deddly> And somehow I
managed to balance it on the engine :O
 
L643[13:07:00] <APlayer> And so I returned
Jeb back home
 
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L645[13:07:19] <APlayer> Heh, good old
newbie times :D
 
L646[13:07:22] <Deddly> :)
 
L647[13:07:23] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Deddly, do you think setting off to laythe first is too
much??
 
L648[13:07:29] <Deddly>
SpacePlaneArchitect, yes
 
L649[13:07:40] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Because i think im ready for it
 
L650[13:07:52] <APlayer>
SpacePlaneArchitect: Do a few LKO missions with dockings, and a few
apollo-style Mun landings
 
L651[13:08:01] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
LKO?
 
L652[13:08:03] <Althego> first go to
duna
 
L653[13:08:06] <Deddly> But what can I
say... Laythe was also my first interplanetary destination. But you
should at least do a non-cheaty Mun mission first
 
L654[13:08:10] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Low
Kerbin Orbit?
 
L655[13:08:16] <APlayer> Then check out
some info on interplanetary transfers and I think you'll be
good to go for a Jool mission
 
L656[13:08:32] <APlayer>
SpacePlaneArchitect, yes, Low Kerbin Orbit
 
L657[13:08:36] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
think i will nail a moon landing at the first time
 
L658[13:08:55] <Fluburtur> such a pain to
have to wait one week to get plastic for my 3d printer
 
L659[13:09:02] <Fluburtur> barely had
enough to printt wo upgrades
 
L660[13:09:09] <SpacePlaneArchitect> For
what
 
L661[13:09:11] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
?
 
L662[13:09:30] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Upgrades for what?
 
L663[13:09:45] <Deddly>
SpacePlaneArchitect, that's great. I look forward to hearing
about your first Mun mission success :)
 
L664[13:09:48] <APlayer> I deem it vital
for a first Laythe mission to be 1) confident with rocket launches,
2) confident with reentries, 3) semi-confident with dockings, 4)
have info on interplanetary transfers and hohmann orbits
 
L665[13:10:12] <Althego> hint: dont try to
do a direct aerocaptuer with an unshielded spaceplane on
laythe
 
L666[13:10:19] <Fluburtur> upgrades for
the printer itself
 
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L669[13:10:53] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: no
problems with the printer so far?
 
L670[13:10:58] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Deddly thanks
 
L671[13:11:08] <APlayer>
SpacePlaneArchitect: I also suggest you test your components on
Kerbin as far as possible before launching to Laythe
 
L672[13:11:46] <APlayer> It would suck to
fail such a project because you forgot to add a parachute somewhere
or tip over in water and cannot launch back to Laythe orbit
 
L673[13:11:46] <Fluburtur> ve2dmn
nah
 
L674[13:11:53] <Fluburtur> im upgrading
the firmware right now
 
L675[13:12:09] <Fluburtur> it prints right
but the extrusion flow is too low and the prints kinda look like
crap
 
L676[13:12:12] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
want to launch an satellite to mun
 
L677[13:12:28] <SpacePlaneArchitect> The
first sattelite will be a scanner
 
L679[13:12:43] <APlayer> That's a
good plan!
 
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L681[13:12:52] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Wich
will scan for ore
 
L682[13:13:11] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: looks
decent
 
L683[13:13:12] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
need to use the MechJeb mod for a accurate landing
 
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L685[13:13:36] <SpacePlaneArchitect> And i
will land a refueling station
 
L686[13:13:37] <Althego> with a spaceplane
you can land accurately anyway
 
L687[13:13:54] <Fluburtur> hard to see on
the pics but the surface is really unregular
 
L688[13:13:58] <ve2dmn>
SpacePlaneArchitect: if you plan to land manually, Minmus is much
easier
 
L689[13:14:09] <Fluburtur> like the axis
jumps instead of moving smoothly
 
L690[13:14:24] <SpacePlaneArchitect> No i
plan to use MechJeb
 
L691[13:14:26] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur:
:/
 
L692[13:14:39] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
will choose where it will land
 
L693[13:14:42] <pixelfox> im happy with my
nx-01 build :)
 
L694[13:14:49] <Fluburtur> but the
firmware stuff should take care of that
 
L695[13:14:55] <ve2dmn> pixelfox:
pics?
 
L696[13:14:59] <Fluburtur> this is a cheap
printer after all
 
L697[13:15:02] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
pixelfox, are you a Star Trek enterprise fan too?
 
L698[13:15:03] <pixelfox> sure
 
L699[13:15:22] <Fluburtur> so it will be
bad for most peoples but not those that are capable to do technical
stuff and don't mind learning stuff
 
L700[13:15:30] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: my old
3d printer had a broken Z-axis. the head would stay at the same
level instead of rising...
 
L701[13:16:05] <ve2dmn> ...but only 1% of
the time
 
L702[13:16:25] <ve2dmn> Which destroyed
90% of the builds
 
L703[13:16:40] <APlayer> Why not 1% of
them?
 
L704[13:16:41] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
think intercepting is pretty easy
 
L705[13:17:03] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
intercepting a planet of course
 
L707[13:17:11] <Fluburtur> I had that
problem
 
L708[13:17:14] <ve2dmn> APlayer: 1% of the
layers were affected... which means that if a build had 200
layers...
 
L709[13:17:21] <Fluburtur> I had to losen
the z axis nuts so it doesn't bind
 
L710[13:17:27] <APlayer> ve2dmn: Ah, got
it
 
L711[13:17:35] <Fluburtur> but it means
that the screws are falling off the printer when it is
printing
 
L712[13:17:42] <pixelfox> complete with
runabout that i actualy managed to get inside the saucer area where
its supposed to be lol
 
L713[13:17:48] <APlayer> I interpreted 1%
as 1% of the builds, but then it would not move a single time
 
L714[13:18:38] <ve2dmn> I could only do
flat builds
 
L715[13:18:46] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
pixelfox WOOWOWOWOWOWOWOWW!!!!!!!
 
L716[13:18:58] <ve2dmn> but it's a 3D
printer, not a 2D one
 
L717[13:19:20] <APlayer> ve2dmn: And the
problem was not fix-able?
 
L718[13:19:34] <ve2dmn> APlayer: never
found the exact source...
 
L719[13:19:34] <pixelfox> bit of forward
tilt on full tanks but thats needed to balance perfectly on
fumes
 
L720[13:20:27] <pixelfox> took 29 builds
to perfect and standardise the build
 
L721[13:20:56] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I
have the collection of Star Trek enterprise seasons
 
L722[13:20:58] <ve2dmn> APlayer: that was
7-8 years ago... I've got rid of it since
 
L723[13:21:01] <SpacePlaneArchitect> 4
seasons
 
L724[13:21:21] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Also
i got 2 star trek voyager seasons
 
L725[13:21:22] <APlayer> ve2dmn: You were
early to buy a 3D printer!
 
L726[13:21:49] <ve2dmn> APlayer: original
Makerbot Cupcake
 
L727[13:22:01] <pixelfox> my galaxy class
build dwarfs that nx but my pc sounds like a vaccum cleaner
lol
 
L728[13:22:30] <APlayer> I am currently
using the school's Ultimaker 2+, and considering to perhaps
buy myself a Prusa i3
 
L729[13:22:33] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Star
Trek Voyager is a piece of... Poop
 
L730[13:22:49] <ve2dmn> APlayer: but
plastic was hard to find at a descent price, so I gave up the whole
idea
 
L731[13:22:56] <pixelfox> ah but arrow
head saucer hard to pull off with curves
 
L732[13:23:40] <Fluburtur> it's
pretty fun controlling the printer from my computer
 
L733[13:23:47] <Fluburtur> feels like im
doing wizard stuff
 
L734[13:23:49] <APlayer> ve2dmn: It's
improved a lot in the past few years, but I am still not quite
ready to actually buy a 3D printer. I feel like mine would be
obsolete way before its expected end of life
 
L735[13:24:25] <APlayer> Same with
computers, actually, but can't really live a modern life
without one, so we all have computers
 
L736[13:24:41] <SpacePlaneArchitect> And i
cant live without Games
 
L737[13:24:46] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Soooo
you win
 
L738[13:24:54] <Fluburtur> eh my printer
is a piece of crap and I will probably have changed all of it at
some point but it is still pretty fun
 
L739[13:24:58] <ve2dmn> APlayer: had to
import all the raw plastic from the US...
 
L740[13:25:12] <pixelfox> ksp is life
:)
 
L741[13:25:15] <APlayer> So, you bribed
them with maple syrup? :P
 
L742[13:25:19] <SpacePlaneArchitect> GAMES
IS LIFE
 
L743[13:25:22] <Althego> voyager was ok,
because of seven and the doc
 
L744[13:25:26] <ve2dmn> pixelfox: KSP is
1500h of my life
 
L745[13:25:34] <SpacePlaneArchitect> ME
KINDA
 
L746[13:25:39] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
TOO
 
L747[13:26:05] <ve2dmn> Althego: the doc
now works for the planetary society
 
L748[13:26:12] <APlayer>
SpacePlaneArchitect, it's nice to hear that you like KSP, but
I don't think caps lock is an appropriate means of expressing
that ;-)
 
L749[13:26:15] <Althego> he was also in
stargate
 
L750[13:26:27] <Althego> which seemed to
be the collection of other scifi casts, liek farscape
 
L751[13:26:39] <Kalpa> Looks like KSP is
patching
 
L752[13:26:44] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I got
season 2 and 3 of voyager
 
L753[13:26:49] <ve2dmn> don't
remember the actor's name
 
L754[13:26:52] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Opened(
 
L755[13:26:56] <Althego> robert
picardo
 
L756[13:27:03] <ve2dmn> Kalpa: it's
1.4 or 1.4.1 ?
 
L757[13:27:11] <ve2dmn> Althego: thank
you
 
L758[13:27:13] <Althego> 1.4.1 is not out
yet
 
L759[13:27:14] <pixelfox> looked all over
the net nobody has attempted a stock galaxy class of any impressive
scale
 
L760[13:27:14] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Im
going to sell Star Trek Voyager
 
L761[13:27:15] <Kalpa> No idea, it's
647.5MB
 
L762[13:27:50] ⇦
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L763[13:27:52] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Anyone need star trek voyager?
 
L764[13:27:57] <Kalpa> It's on
netflix.
 
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L766[13:28:22] <SpacePlaneArchitect> I got
Opened Packs
 
L767[13:28:29] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Season 2 and 3
 
L768[13:30:23] *
SpacePlaneArchitect killed the chat 
L769[13:31:53] <SpacePlaneArchitect> God i
just killed it
 
L770[13:32:29] ***
Deddly is now known as x-x 
L771[13:32:41] <pixelfox> ive just
finished dinner , back to ksp lol :P
 
L772[13:32:48] ⇦
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L773[13:32:57] *
x-x festers 
L774[13:33:37] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
KSP
 
L775[13:33:48] <SpacePlaneArchitect> x-x
change your nickname back
 
L776[13:34:13] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Or
change it to Mun
 
L777[13:34:14] <x-x> I'm dead,
see?
 
L778[13:34:19] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
lol
 
L779[13:34:32] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Its
super Ed-ective!
 
L780[13:34:37] ***
x-x is now known as Dead-ly 
L781[13:34:44] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
lol
 
L782[13:34:56] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Undertale
 
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L784[13:35:10] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Anyone like undertale?
 
L785[13:35:17] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Or
atleast played it?
 
L786[13:35:20] ***
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L787[13:35:30] <Deddly> Never heard of
it
 
L788[13:35:42] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
._.
 
L789[13:35:46] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Really?
 
L790[13:35:50] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Play
it
 
L791[13:36:00] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Good
gameplay
 
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L793[13:36:13] <SpacePlaneArchitect> But
dont judge the book, with just one look
 
L794[13:36:21] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Play
the game, the judge it
 
L795[13:36:26] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
then
 
L796[13:36:39] <Arcan> undertale is
meh
 
L797[13:36:52] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
SANEESS
 
L798[13:37:01] <SpacePlaneArchitect> DO
YOU WANNA HAVE A BAD TOM?!
 
L799[13:37:11] ***
Lev^back7th is now known as Leveller 
L800[13:37:41] <SpacePlaneArchitect> how
do i change nickname?
 
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L802[13:38:34] <ve2dmn> try /nick ?
 
L803[13:38:36] <Fluburtur> ay
Leveller
 
L804[13:39:02] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
nope
 
L805[13:39:16] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Kerbals = Salty Cucumbers
 
L806[13:39:20] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
lol
 
L807[13:40:10] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Have
anyone get that thought that kerbals look like cucumbers?
 
L808[13:41:45] <Kalpa> Nope.
 
L809[13:42:16] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Glyk
have
 
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L812[13:43:04] <goldenpeach> Anyone know
if there’s a way to edit the level required to deploy the EVA
chutes?
 
L813[13:43:12] <ve2dmn> 3
 
L814[13:43:22] <ve2dmn> edit? no
idea
 
L815[13:43:33] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Search in confings
 
L816[13:43:38] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
configs
 
L817[13:45:51] <goldenpeach> where are
they?
 
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L819[13:49:14] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Idk
 
L820[13:49:25] <SpacePlaneArchitect> Look
it up on yt
 
L821[13:49:39] <ve2dmn> ...
 
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L823[13:50:11] <ve2dmn> goldenpeach:
probably too new for any good info
 
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L825[13:52:33] <UmbralRaptop> So,
grep?
 
L826[13:52:40] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Theres a girl, i know. Deep like the ocean and bright like the
stars.
 
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L829[13:53:38] <SpacePlaneArchitect> She,
never let it show. Covered in secrets and many scars.
 
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L833[13:57:12] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Slender and tall, i cant help but fall. Tragic and painfully
strong.
 
L834[14:00:21] <SpacePlaneArchitect> And i
know what i feel. And i know that its real. And i know where i
belong!
 
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L836[14:01:50] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
'Cause i belong with you! And nothing can take me away!
 
L837[14:05:05] <SpacePlaneArchitect> And
this song is for you!
 
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L839[14:10:39] <Althego> you know,
spaceplanearchitect, you are a somewhat annoying
 
L840[14:12:42] <mrcus> Just tease him into
finding alternate words for "feces"
 
L841[14:13:04] <mrcus> that will get him
thrown out, speaking from experience ;)
 
L842[14:13:27] <mrcus> Loving this new
update, almost none of my mods died!
 
L843[14:13:45] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
MODZ
 
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L845[14:15:06] <ve2dmn> mrcus: yeah, but
as a Norwegian, you had a translation error excuse
 
L846[14:15:41] <mrcus> ve2dmn: It
didn't work, unfortunately.
 
L847[14:17:28] <ve2dmn> It only had moral
weigh
 
L848[14:17:32] <ve2dmn> sorry, mass
 
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L850[14:19:11] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: Ask not what your space program launch for
you, but what you can launch for your space program.
 
L851[14:19:37] <Kalpa> Is Supernovy around
(I can see he is not)
 
L852[14:20:05] <mrcus> Kalpa: That was a
confusing question, was it some sort of internal dialogue?
 
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L854[14:20:16] <Kalpa> yes.
 
L855[14:20:23] <mrcus> I liked it.
 
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L859[14:22:43] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
LOL
 
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L862[14:24:07] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
ALelellelealselaealeslalalselal
 
L863[14:24:15] <Arcan> sir
 
L864[14:24:17] <Arcan> enough spam
 
L865[14:24:30] *
Arcan nibbles on SpacePlaneArchitect 
L866[14:25:08] *
SpacePlaneArchitect Blocks 
L867[14:25:33] <Scolar_Visari> Supernovy
is with us in spirit, for it is only through their sacrifice and
supernovy nucleosynthesis that we exist.
 
L868[14:25:58] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
wat
 
L869[14:26:16] <Althego> hehe
 
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L874[14:29:07] <SpacePlaneArchitect>
Everyone is quiting because of that
 
L875[14:30:02] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
"we are made of star stuff"
 
L876[14:30:40] <SpacePlaneArchitect> OFF
MATTER
 
L877[14:31:04] <Scolar_Visari>
SpacePlaneArchitect: So they're switching to non-baryonic
matter?
 
L878[14:31:22] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Ultimately we're also made of non-star stuff.
 
L879[14:32:18] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
because of DHMO?
 
L880[14:33:02] <ve2dmn> because I doubt
I'm made of helium
 
L881[14:33:05] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Well, I was thinking of the hydrogen that went into those
supermassive stars.
 
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L883[14:33:46] <mrcus> I'm actually
made of 50 % antimatter
 
L884[14:33:57] <ve2dmn> I don't
matter that much
 
L885[14:34:05] <Althego> lol
 
L886[14:34:40] *
Scolar_Visari ponders if the matter created from neutron star
nucleosynthesis should be counted as, "star
stuff". 
L887[14:35:16] <ve2dmn> For sure.
It's still "Neutron stars"
 
L888[14:35:34] <Scolar_Visari> Yeah, but
they're not fusing!
 
L889[14:35:58] <Scolar_Visari> I mean, we
call those lithium heavy examples, "brown dwarf stars"
and they're lucky to fuse tritium and deuterium!
 
L890[14:35:59] <ve2dmn> ? They are
refusing?
 
L891[14:36:12] <mrcus> I thought my fire
alarm went off
 
L892[14:36:16] <mrcus> But it was just the
NERD ALERT
 
L893[14:36:53] <Althego> nrown dwarf
substellar object
 
L894[14:36:58] <mrcus> ;)
 
L895[14:38:08] <ve2dmn> mrcus: are you
suprised? I mean... this is #KSP
 
L896[14:38:58] <Scolar_Visari> They
thought it was the Kerbal Surfing Program official channel.
 
L897[14:39:21] <mrcus> ve2dmn: I was just
not prepared :'(
 
L898[14:39:40] <Althego> remember that
skysurfing thing the kid in talespin had?
 
L899[14:39:45] <Althego> tailspi n
 
L900[14:39:51] <Althego> too tired
 
L901[14:39:56] <Althego> i want that
 
L902[14:40:04] <APlayer> It's the
Kool Stuff People Official channel ;-)
 
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L904[14:42:15] <mrcus> I love how the
channel topic states that it's the channel topic
 
L905[14:44:24] <Deddly> :P
 
L906[14:44:29] <Deddly> Nothing to see
here
 
L907[14:46:43] <mrcus> hahaha
 
L908[14:46:47] <Scolar_Visari> Move along,
citizen.
 
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L910[14:48:16] <Althego> fine, there were
no engine changes between 1.3.1 and 1.4
 
L911[14:48:29] <Althego> and even in 1.3
they were like some texts
 
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L913[14:49:10] <APlayer> Actually, 1.4 is
just a big coverup story to make you believe that the Earth is
flat
 
L914[14:49:43] <mrcus> Wait, it's not
flat?
 
L915[14:49:44] <Sarbian> 1.4 - The new
EULA. That s it.
 
L916[14:50:09] <mrcus> Then why do i need
to go _sideways_, and not _downwards_ to stay in orbit
 
L917[14:50:55] <APlayer> But really... The
Flat Earth Theory is, to this date, the one conspiracy theory with
the highest ridiculosity * number-of-believers number I am aware
of. By far.
 
L918[14:51:19] <mrcus> Oooh, this sounds
like an _awesome_ scatter plot chart
 
L919[14:51:22] <Althego> worse than moon
hoaxers
 
L920[14:51:29] <APlayer> Much worse.
 
L921[14:51:44] <Scolar_Visari> APlayer: I
would contend other pseudoscientific paradigms double as conspiracy
theories, such as Global Warming denial and Intelligent
Design.
 
L922[14:51:47] <halcyon_b> Although, how
many more people believe in the moon landing as a hoax vs flat
earthers?
 
L923[14:51:50] <APlayer> I mean, compared
to FET, moon hoaxes are *kind of* believable...
 
L924[14:51:52] <Althego> ok, flat erthers
are usually people who deny: moon landings, the iss, and spacex
rocket landings too
 
L925[14:52:03] <halcyon_b> I mean, if
it's a comparable number, flat earthers have it
 
L926[14:52:31] <Althego> we are in an age,
science does so amazing things these people dont believ it
 
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L930[14:53:52] <Scolar_Visari> So, when
doe UmbralRaptops switch to UmbralDeskraptors?
 
L931[14:54:14] <Althego> what
 
L932[14:55:36] <UmbralRaptop> When
I'm in a position to debug the weirdness where my desktop
won't boot. Or get a new one.
 
L933[14:55:51] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptop: What's it doing?
 
L934[14:55:57] <UmbralRaptop> (It's a
Core2Duo…)
 
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L936[14:56:24] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptop: Mine's a 2008 Core 2 Quad
 
L937[14:56:34] <Althego> core2duo actually
doesnt mean anything. it is a brand name that has been around for
what 15 years?
 
L938[14:56:42] <UmbralRaptop>
Scolar_Visari: weirdness. Previous HDD died. Put new one in,
install Debian, and it, uh, doesn't boot off of it.
 
L939[14:56:55] <mrcus> UmbralRaptop: Maybe
one of the archeologists at the local university can take a look at
it
 
L940[14:56:59] <Althego> hah probably
uefi
 
L941[14:57:10] <UmbralRaptop> Althego:
E6600 I think?
 
L942[14:57:15] <APlayer> UmbralRaptop: I
suggest replacing the hard- and software piecewise, until either
(1) your desktop boots, or (2) you have fully replaced your
computer piece by piece, at which point see (1)
 
L943[14:57:27] <UmbralRaptop> It ran
Debian fine with the previous drive.
 
L944[14:57:34] <APlayer> :P
 
L945[14:57:37] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptop: This is why I have two.
 
L946[14:58:08] <APlayer> A boot USB drive
is a useful thing to have, generally
 
L947[14:58:37] <UmbralRaptop>
Scolar_Visari: theoretically there's a second one. In reality,
that one has a bad mobo, so…
 
L948[14:59:12] *
UmbralRaptop might be able to get the XP partition to boot, but
then they're using XP again… 
L949[14:59:36] <Scolar_Visari> Upgrade to
Windows 10?
 
L950[14:59:48] <Althego> anybody tried to
make a paratrooper squad in ksp?
 
L951[14:59:51] <Scolar_Visari> That's
actually what I did when I replaced my bad drive.
 
L952[15:00:00] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
Starship troopers, you mean?
 
L953[15:00:03] <Althego> we have a cargo
bay door, we have parachutes
 
L954[15:00:21] *
Scolar_Visari recalls there being mods with parts functionally
similar to drop pods. 
L955[15:00:23] <Althego> i want to see 100
kerbals float down slowly
 
L957[15:00:52] <Gasher> Scolar_Visari,
heh
 
L958[15:00:53] <kmath> YouTube - Kerbal
Space Program: Low-Budget Paratroopers
 
L959[15:00:57] <APlayer> Althego: For now,
you should be satisfied with 100 Kerbals floating down
*quickly*
 
L960[15:01:09] <Althego> hehe
 
L962[15:01:10] <kmath> YouTube - KSP
v.0.20 Paratrooper Brigade Exercises
 
L963[15:01:13] <Althego> but they have
parachutes now
 
L964[15:01:20] <UmbralRaptop> o/` I lost
my heart to a starship trooper o/`
 
L965[15:02:16] <Althego> also
"watashi no kare wa pilot" from minmei :)
 
L966[15:02:43] <Scolar_Visari> Why need a
parahute when you have a rocket pack?
 
L967[15:03:12] <Althego> according to the
book, the drop pods do have some parachutes
 
L968[15:03:31] <mrcus> ok, so I have a
question for you
 
L969[15:03:37] <mrcus> this used to really
provoke my american friends
 
L970[15:03:45] <Althego> and landing
without air by the suit jets is done late in the training, on the
moon
 
L971[15:03:59] <mrcus> how do you rate the
concept "gratineed pollock and macaroni casserole with white
sauce"
 
L972[15:04:17] <APlayer> Scolar_Visari:
This comment under the video you linked: "You sir are both a
monster and the worst aviator in history."
 
L973[15:04:36] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
The parachutes would be a liability, I would think, particularly
given that they can already casually jump hundreds of meters in
their suits.
 
L974[15:04:59] <Scolar_Visari> The
parachute's basically advertising, "I'M OVER HERE!
I'M OVER HERE!"
 
L975[15:05:00] <Althego> the parachutes
are for the pods, not for the suits
 
L976[15:05:07] <Althego> yes, that is why
there are several
 
L977[15:05:17] <Althego> and most of the
descent is done in freefall
 
L978[15:05:18] <Scolar_Visari> Yeah, why
does the pod need one if the suit can slow down?
 
L979[15:05:40] <Althego> spare the delta
v?
 
L980[15:06:11] <Scolar_Visari> If
they're jumping hundreds of meters, I'd think they were
jet-packs and thus delta-v would only be an issue in vacuum with
limited propellant.
 
L981[15:06:21] <Scolar_Visari> The book
was not very clear on this matter, not that I really cared for
it.
 
L982[15:06:23] <Althego> they do work in
vacuum
 
L983[15:06:33] <Althego> after all rockets
are a form of jet propulsion
 
L984[15:06:48] <UmbralRaptop> The book
fired them from orbit with a cannon, so…
 
L985[15:07:15] <Scolar_Visari> Althego: I
was thinking of air breathing engines, hence jet-packs.
 
L986[15:07:30] <Scolar_Visari> Rockets
are, er, not jets. Jets are reaction engines, as are rockets.
 
L987[15:07:31] <Althego> and as i said,
they could use them to land on the moon
 
L988[15:07:38] <Althego> so no jets, those
must be rockets
 
L989[15:07:56] <Scolar_Visari> Yeah, but
you could possibly switch out for two modes of operation like jump
jets in Battletech.
 
L990[15:08:12] <Althego> it was also
mentioned that command suits had more mobility, probably to the
expense of firepower
 
L991[15:09:04] *
Scolar_Visari snickers at high ranking officers trying to
coordinate in the middle of battles. 
L992[15:09:45] <Althego> ah there is a
venus mercury moon... syzygy :)
 
L993[15:09:47] <UmbralRaptop> It's
from an era when the command suits also had extra comm channels,
because the mass of the gear for that mattered.
 
L994[15:09:54] <Althego> what a lovely
word
 
L995[15:11:13] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptop: I recall the power armor requiring the user to
interface with special components mounted inside their helmet by
biting them.
 
L996[15:11:23] <Gasher> yeah something
like that
 
L997[15:11:34] <Althego> for the radio,
radar and stuff
 
L998[15:11:41] <Scolar_Visari> I
can't imagine trying to coordinate fire support . . . Wait a
second, what fire support?
 
L999[15:12:12] <Scolar_Visari> "So
who do I ask for an airstrike around here?" " . . .
What's an airstrike?"
 
L1000[15:13:14] <UmbralRaptop> Ask for
some nova bombs from the craft you jumped from?
 
L1001[15:13:59] <Scolar_Visari> Putting
the, "danger" back in, "danger close".
 
L1002[15:14:57] <Scolar_Visari> Good
news: Targeted bug hole was completely irradiated and several
tunnels were collapse. Bad news: Platoon requesting fire support
are also irradiated and vaporized.
 
L1003[15:15:25] <UmbralRaptop>
>:D
 
L1004[15:15:42] <Althego> actually the
suits could take some radiation
 
L1005[15:15:51] <Althego> probably not a
direct nucleear warhead hit
 
L1006[15:16:04] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
Hence irradiation and *vaporization*.
 
L1007[15:16:41] <Scolar_Visari> Then
again, the suits themselves employed impractically tiny yield
nuclear bombs as their primary weapons.
 
L1008[15:17:06] <Althego> primary? they
had some rockets
 
L1009[15:18:15] <Scolar_Visari> Yeah,
that were tipped with nuclear explosives!
 
L1010[15:18:35] <Althego> but i thought
normal guns were their primaries
 
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L1012[15:19:05] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
 
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L1015[15:19:19] <SnoopJeDi> ahoy
Supernovy
 
L1016[15:20:34] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
No, they actually make fun of old ballistic weapons.
 
L1017[15:21:02] <Scolar_Visari>
There's a screed against suppressive fire in the book during
training, and flamethrowers instead serve the purpose of CQC
weapons.
 
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L1019[15:21:58] <Althego> the book
mentions that tanks are obsolete against mi
 
L1020[15:22:54] <Scolar_Visari> Quoting
from the book (which I'm unsure why I still have): " . .
. The Y-rack on my shoulders launched two small H.E. bombs a couple
of hundred yards each way to my right and left flanks, but I never
saw what they did as just then my first rocket hit---that
unmistakable (if you've ever seen one) brilliance of an atomic
explosion.""
 
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L1023[15:23:27] <Althego> yes but to me
that seemed to be asa secondary
 
L1024[15:23:33] <Scolar_Visari> "It
was just a peewee, of course, less than two kilotons nominal yield,
with a tamper and implosion squeeze to produce results from a
less-than-critical mass---but then who wants to be bunk mates with
a cosmic catastrophe?"
 
L1025[15:23:51] <Althego> and that is the
rocket i mentioned
 
L1026[15:23:56] <Scolar_Visari> Nuclear
rocket.
 
L1027[15:24:01] <Supernovy> I don't
have a choice on that front, Scolar_Visari.
 
L1028[15:24:02] <Althego> but he aimed
with that carefully
 
L1029[15:24:05] <Althego> so they didnt
have much of it
 
L1030[15:24:08] <Althego> many
 
L1031[15:25:41] *
Scolar_Visari wishes the silly book had an index. 
L1032[15:25:59] <Althego> i have it on
paper lol
 
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L1036[15:27:34] <Scolar_Visari> Atomic
bombs and rockets and the handheld flamers are all the weapons the
book's suits had.
 
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L1040[15:29:30] <Scolar_Visari> The only
guns, per chapter five, were training articles.
 
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L1043[15:30:09] <Althego> but why train
with guns, if you are never going to use them?
 
L1044[15:30:25] <Althego> they had to
have some sort of aimed weapon for pinpoint accuracy
 
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L1050[15:30:36] <Althego> otherwise the
whole cocnept is meaningless
 
L1051[15:30:49] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
That's the thing, Rico criticizes guns for not having homing
ammunition.
 
L1052[15:31:06] <Scolar_Visari> "A
rifle is not an easy weapon; it's got no target-seeking
qualities at all."
 
L1053[15:31:08] <Althego> but i mean
something that is not taking out a city block
 
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L1057[15:31:47] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
Generally speaking, collateral damage is a non-concern in the book.
That is, in fact, the whole point of the first chapter and the
MI's assault on alien civilians.
 
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L1085[15:32:33] ***
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L1086[15:32:36] <Scolar_Visari> The point
of using the ballistic weapons was simply to "prepare us to
learn to use any armed weapon and to train us to be on the bounce,
alert, ready for anything."
 
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L1093[15:34:39] <Althego> have to
sleep
 
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L1096[15:34:48] <Althego> of akkad?
 
L1097[15:34:49] <Scolar_Visari>
Amusingly, the weapon systems could also be set to automatically
launch ordinance!
 
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L1099[15:36:41] *
Scolar_Visari is unsure why they remembered so much about the power
armor from pro-fascism Starship Troopers. Perhaps more Nor Crystal
Tears reading is required? 
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L1101[15:37:04] <Scolar_Visari> This bug
is your FRIEND. It fights for FREEDOM."
 
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L1104[15:37:46] <Althego> starship
troopers universe is still a happier place than warhammer 40k
 
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L1113[15:38:27] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
But not nearly as entertaining. Also: Didn't have long
screeds.
 
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L1121[15:39:12] <Scolar_Visari> I mean,
the introductions to each rule book certainly didn't take up
as much text as a lesson on the franchise and whipping
people.
 
L1122[15:39:27] *
Scolar_Visari also ponders reading The Forever War. 
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L1128[15:48:09] <Scolar_Visari> Maybe the
Bugs were Kerbals this entire time?
 
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Troopers RPG in the vein of Spec Ops: The Line 
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L1133[15:52:25] <RandomJeb> I was just
about to say I'm reading the forever war right now
 
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L1143[17:06:51] <X> I miss x-x
 
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L1156[18:00:01] <ve2dmn> I something miss
the old "Mission"
 
L1157[18:00:57] <ve2dmn> Like: Mission:
You need to fingure where exactly you are... Outcome: today's
xkcd is relevant
 
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L1164[18:19:56] ***
RyanKnack is now known as R 
L1165[18:21:11] <ConductorCat> There is a
new one?
 
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L1175[18:41:27] <ve2dmn> ConductorCat:
no
 
L1176[18:41:46] <ConductorCat> D:
 
L1177[18:42:15] <ve2dmn> There is only a
new KSP...
 
L1178[18:42:28] <taniwha> with new
drama
 
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L1180[18:44:40] <ve2dmn> taniwha:
suprised?
 
L1181[18:45:14] <taniwha> not
particularly
 
L1182[18:46:02] <ve2dmn> every time, I am
disappoint, but not suprised
 
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L1189[18:49:46] <ve2dmn> funny how I
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L1198[19:06:54] <Kalpa> Supernovy: Good
morning.
 
L1199[19:08:03] <Kalpa> Supernovy: I
would like to talk about Espoo.
 
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L1203[19:12:30] <TheKosmonaut>
Espoo?
 
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L1208[19:38:53] <Kalpa> Espoo.
 
L1209[19:39:01] <Kalpa> Specifically I
would like to talk about how it is pronounced.
 
L1210[19:39:19] <Kalpa> But the point is
moot if Supernovy is not around.
 
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L1214[20:02:10] <Arcan> .seen
Supernovy
 
L1215[20:02:17] <Arcan> do we have that
kind of bot?
 
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L1217[20:04:05] <Supernovy> hello there
Kalpa.
 
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L1238[22:54:48] <Guest80804> hi
 
L1239[22:54:51] <Mod9000> Hello,
Guest80804
 
L1240[22:55:17] <Guest80804> steam has
upgradet my ksp installation,
 
L1241[22:55:41] <Guest80804> it was a
"beta" .1.2 version, because i had a lot of mods
 
L1242[22:55:51] <Guest80804> now the save
is broken
 
L1243[22:56:09] <Guest80804> :(
 
L1244[22:57:11] <Guest80804> im "not
amused"
 
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