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L4[17:34:06] <Malachite> ah shite
L5[17:34:07] <PotatoKSP> Howdy
Katalliaan
L6[17:34:07] <Dasm> Rokker: Its hard
L7[17:34:09] <PotatoKSP> err
L8[17:34:12] <PotatoKSP> Katie,
L9[17:34:15] <jazzkutya> it seems 1.0 has
been finetuned for scott_manley :)
L10[17:34:15] <Malachite> oops, sorry. i
forgot my parachutes
L12[17:34:22] <milaga> \o
L13[17:34:24] <Malachite> mun satellite
hoooo
L14[17:34:24] <RokkerTheInvincible> Dasm,
how does it compare to FAR?
L15[17:34:30] <Dasm> It feels similar
L16[17:34:36] <RokkerTheInvincible>
Good
L17[17:34:38] <Lakel> its not far, but its
better then old stock
L18[17:34:45] <LordyK> a bit less forgiving
in some ways, a bit more forgiving in others
L19[17:34:54] <Malachite> yea,its not quite
far but a little nicer
L20[17:34:57] <mucco> why does my ship
explode on reentry?
L21[17:34:59] <Dasm> You get large AOA
slips if you don't keep your velocity vector pointed the right
way
L23[17:35:05] <Lakel> re-entry heating is a
thing now mucco
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L25[17:35:14] <Dasm> Usually I end up doing
a few flips on my way to orbit
L26[17:35:25] <Malachite> Dasm: dont tilt
over so far then
L27[17:35:26] <Dasm> Before
stabalizing
L28[17:35:34] <Malachite> gotta fly the far
way of staying within the prograde circle
L29[17:35:36] <provet> oh mucco, not read
the new feature deadly re-entry?
L30[17:35:40] <mucco> Lakel: my "ship
is: mk1 pod, chute, ablator shield
L31[17:35:53] <provet> sounds like
bug
L32[17:35:55] <Dasm> I did learn that real
gravity turns work... tirlting over slightly and letting gravity
turn the craft
L33[17:36:02] <Lakel> is it flying in
heatshield down?
L34[17:36:02] <Dasm> tilting*
L35[17:36:06] <kuzetsa> oh well, the CDN is
faster (at least an order of magnitude faster) so I guess the new
(awful, way WAY too animated) site isn't the worst thing
L36[17:36:09] <mucco> yes
L37[17:36:13] <Eclipser> apparently it's
287.6 whatever-unit-2hot-termometer uses on kerbin
L38[17:36:22] <mucco> but shield seems to
tilt the ship heading
L39[17:36:25] <Lakel> does the heatshield
have any "ablative" left when it explodes?
L40[17:36:32] <mucco> yeah, 180/200
remaining
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L42[17:36:45] <provet> I havnt tried the
small version...
L43[17:36:58] <Lakel> then it sbeyond what
knowledge i have if its exploding with ablativ eremaining, falling
heatshield first
L44[17:37:03] <provet> does not the mk1
have its own heatshield?
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L46[17:37:10] <kuzetsa> this time now that
it's from a new, WAY faster CDN, this 1.0 release of KSP is
probably the first time I've ever had a KSP download manage to push
the limit of the subscription tier I'm on from the ISP :)
L47[17:37:14] <kroker> i want to start a
new career, but want to know if i can change tech tree and add mods
later without too much issue?
L48[17:37:15] <kuzetsa> thanks, squad
:)
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L50[17:37:22] <Malachite> t count is
go
L51[17:37:24] <mucco> science is hard to
come by
L52[17:37:35] <mucco> no more broken
strategy in administration
L53[17:37:38] <kroker> i can't find the
tech tree that supported the tons of mods and had it broken up
nicely into blocks
L54[17:37:39] <RokkerTheInvincible> I ain't
touching 1.0 for a while, I got mods to update
L55[17:37:51] <KwirkyJ> odd. the
"narrow band scanner" accesses the GUI, works and reports
percentage, but doesn't feed into the survey data?
L56[17:37:53] <Dewin|work> kroker:
"Probably", especially now that tech trees are per-save
now given the changelog
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L58[17:38:08] <LordyK> it should be a lot
easier to change tech trees now
L59[17:38:11] <RokkerTheInvincible> Or wait
for mods to update rather
L60[17:38:24] <GreeningGalaxy> I'm totally
making a roidship for the Vallentina mission
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L62[17:38:37] <maltesh> Symlinks are
online. Execute.
L63[17:38:47] <Lakel> yyup, pwings is
definetly not working in 1.0, wont attach to the plane, it will
"drop" anywhere else, but that leads to it connecting to
the plane, while not being a part of it
L64[17:39:03] <Crzyrndm> B9 pwings already
updated...
L65[17:39:09] <maltesh> Oh, wait, forgot.
It's time for the Changing of the Taskbar Shortcut.
L66[17:39:18] <provet> are the retreival
missions in career really supposed to use the AGU?
L67[17:39:25] <Arrowstar> Right, I'm out.
Later all. :)
L68[17:39:32] <Lakel> unless it updated in
the last 5 minutes, or does B9 have a differnet pwings then the
Pwings i got 5 minutes ago?
L69[17:39:37] <Malachite> window closes as
7:03 pm est?
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L71[17:39:42] <maltesh> I'd assume so;
there's nothing else stock that's as easy to grab things
with.
L72[17:39:45] <Malachite> oh, thats the
t-0, der
L73[17:39:47] <Beeks> There's new LANDING
GEAR! *hugs* WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELS
L76[17:40:24] <mucco> 10th aerobraking
pass...
L77[17:40:29] <Malachite> mucco: heh
L78[17:40:30] <provet> I had to retreive a
mk1 lander can
L79[17:40:32] <provet> >.>
L80[17:40:34] <Malachite> oh crap
L81[17:40:42] <Malachite> i didnt think
about a heatshield
L82[17:40:46] <Malachite> AHHHHHHH
nooooo
L83[17:40:51] <Dasm> !!!! I'm 20KM up and I
saw my stage one explode at KSC
L84[17:41:04] <provet> Malachite with the
right angle you may make it anyway
L85[17:41:16] <Malachite> yea, i'll just
have to do it gently
L86[17:41:18] <maltesh> All the more reason
to gravity turn earlier.
L87[17:41:34] <Malachite> yea, i think phys
range got changed significantly
L88[17:41:49] <asklepian> so, SAS off
should orient to retrograde during reentry, right?
L89[17:41:52] <maltesh> Up to something
like 25km, I believe.
L90[17:41:57] <asklepian> ...cause it
isn't
L91[17:41:58] <milaga> no
L92[17:42:04] <asklepian> but
L93[17:42:06] <Malachite> asklepian: not at
all
L94[17:42:07] <asklepian> aero
L95[17:42:09] <Malachite> it depends very
much
L96[17:42:11] <milaga> it will orient to
whatever your craft prefers ... usually it's not what you
want
L97[17:42:13] <Malachite> on your vessle
design
L99[17:42:23] <TechnicolorDalek> exactly
aero
L100[17:42:40] <asklepian> but the mk1
capsule with the heat shield
L101[17:42:47] <asklepian> why would that
not orient to retro
L102[17:42:58] <Malachite> because your
COM is off?
L103[17:43:04] <Malachite> because your
drag is elsewhere?
L104[17:43:13] <asklepian> why would any
aerospace engineer not design the most stable config to be heat
shield TOWARD the heat?
L105[17:43:17] <mucco> mk1 capsule without
shield will orient to retro
L106[17:43:21] <asklepian> in case your
gyros go or whatever
L107[17:43:25] <mucco> but heat shield
makes it tilt
L108[17:43:34] <mucco> not sure why
L109[17:43:46] <Blaank> I thought capsules
were most aerodynamic with blunt forward.
L110[17:43:51] <asklepian> right
L111[17:43:53] <mucco> I think the craft
lift configuration is changed
L112[17:43:54] <Blaank> Another reason
they are good.
L113[17:43:59] <asklepian> I just killed
jeb because mine isn't
L114[17:44:16] <Malachite> woo free return
trajectories
L115[17:44:17] <asklepian> with power off,
ass should go first
L116[17:44:19] <Blaank> I'd call that a
bug.
L117[17:44:24] <asklepian> why on earth
doesn't it?
L118[17:44:26] <Dasm> This craft is a PITA
to move without and reaction control
L119[17:44:27] <mucco> asklepian: I'm on
my 15th aerobraking pass returning from mun
L120[17:44:31] <maltesh> Up to something
like 25km, I believe.Oh, well, that's nifty. Native Chromecast
support on livestream.com. Except it's not working, which is
stupid.
L121[17:44:43] <asklepian> 15th?!
lmao
L122[17:44:46] <Lakel> Crzyrndm: thanks,
one question, the seperate folder outside the gamefolder, throw it
in the ksp base, or is it source?
L123[17:44:54] <wagner> Blaank: they're
not "aerodynamic", but they're aerodynamically stable
blunt forward
L124[17:44:58] <Crzyrndm> it's
source
L125[17:44:59] <Thurak> does the science
rate of the lab change based off where you have it then?
L126[17:45:02] <asklepian> right
L127[17:45:06] <Crzyrndm> just want
gamedata
L128[17:45:06] <asklepian> aerodynamically
stable
L129[17:45:08] <mucco> my jeb will get
home!
L130[17:45:10] <Blaank> I meant naturally
stable with blunt forward.
L131[17:45:20] <asklepian> why my heat
shield no aerodynamically stable?
L132[17:45:28] <wagner> usually because
they're heavily ballasted at the bottom of the heat shield
L133[17:45:31] <Lakel> will do, had no
idea B9 started up their own procedural stuff. been away for
awhile
L134[17:45:33] <Blaank> I've had them get
stuck on their side before and refuse to go shield-down.
L135[17:45:45] <kroker> what was the name
of the tech tree that included a bunch of mods into it and broke it
up into blocks? realistic progression lite or something? it wasn't
part of the realism overhaul though
L136[17:45:48] <Blaank> That got me killed
once. Ever since I've kept them retrograde once it starts getting
rough.
L137[17:45:50] <KwirkyJ> one thing I find
lacking from the Mk3 cargo bays is a nose or tail door
L138[17:45:56] <Crzyrndm> it beats the
pants off old pwings
L139[17:45:57] <asklepian> the mk1 + heat
shield seems to orient to the edge between the capsule and the heat
shield
L140[17:46:00] <KwirkyJ> (think, TT mk4
fuselage stuff)
L141[17:46:08] <Dasm> And I totally forgot
that the orbital view doesn't show intercept until you upgrade the
tracking thation ><
L142[17:46:12] <Lakel> still wanting wings
with fuel storage :p
L143[17:46:13] <Blaank> I want 3.75m
reaction wheel.
L144[17:46:14] <asklepian> and that edge
is deadly
L145[17:46:17] <Dasm> station*
L146[17:46:23] <Malachite> 4 hours to get
to the mun, nice
L147[17:46:24] <Crzyrndm> the do have
fuel
L148[17:46:28] <Crzyrndm> they*
L149[17:46:29] <Blaank> And 3.75m crew
capsule. Thanksfully I have Taurus HCV for that.
L150[17:46:29] <asklepian> how have they
not ballasted the heat shield?
L151[17:46:38] <Lakel> in that case, i am
in full agreement, these are freakin amazing
L152[17:46:47] <wagner> Lakel: b9 has no
procedural parts
L153[17:46:52] <asklepian> WHY have they
not ballasted the heat shield?
L154[17:47:08] <Malachite> because. learn
to adapt around it, or mod it yourself.
L155[17:47:15] <Blaank> You can try in its
config to increase mass
L156[17:47:21] <Blaank> Not sure if it
would help.
L157[17:47:21] <wagner> they're just using
firesplitter to allow multiple models/skins to be compacted into
one part
L160[17:47:48] <Crzyrndm> not the main b9
pack
L161[17:48:00] <Malachite> Dasm: well
done
L162[17:48:03] <KwirkyJ>
@PART[HeatShield*] {@mass *=5} // or something
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L164[17:48:31] <Blaank> wat
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L166[17:48:58] <PotatoKSP> Uhh, my plane
is doing a backflip
L167[17:49:02] <PotatoKSP> once it lifts
off
L168[17:49:08] <Malachite> cool, so the
oco is good to 1200
L169[17:49:14] <KwirkyJ> PotatoKSP: CoL is
too far forward, CoM is too far back
L170[17:49:16] <Malachite> PotatoKSP: your
col/com is too off
L171[17:49:33] <Lakel> 95% likely your
CoL(Blue) is in front of CoM(yellow/black) PotatoKSP
L172[17:49:33] <PotatoKSP> So, does CoL
need to be infrot of the CoM?
L173[17:49:38] <Dasm> Malachite: They
seriously nerfed science rewards for contracts... didn't
they?
L174[17:49:40] <Crzyrndm> other way
around
L175[17:49:42] <Malachite> they did
L176[17:49:43] <PotatoKSP> ok
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L179[17:49:50] <Malachite> and also the
funds>science contract
L180[17:50:01] <Blaank> Ah, not enough dv
to attempt recovery.
L181[17:50:09] <Dasm> I never had issues
with funds.. just science
L182[17:50:22] <Crzyrndm> well now there's
like 10x the funds anyway...
L183[17:50:24] <maltesh> It was funds
while it lasted.
L184[17:50:28] <Malachite> then hit up the
funds > science contract
L185[17:50:45] <Dasm> You mean the
strategy?
L186[17:50:50] <Malachite> yea
L187[17:51:01] <Dasm> Thats actually a
good idea
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L189[17:51:05] <Crzyrndm> 500k just for
getting into orbit...
L190[17:51:06] <Malachite> i hope this
thing doesnt explode
L191[17:51:07] <Lakel> so weather is
acceptable for space-X to begin
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L193[17:51:21] <Malachite> Crzyrndm: try
hardmode, you only end up with 200ishk
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L195[17:51:24] <Blaank> You need money to
buy research after researching it. Don't forget that and get left
with all science and no cash.
L196[17:51:35] <Crzyrndm> yea, I went with
normal cause hard was just grind before
L197[17:51:40] <Crzyrndm> but this is
stupid
L198[17:51:42] <Malachite> its still a
grind <_<
L199[17:52:02] <Malachite> im going to
lose this craft X_X
L200[17:52:25] <Lakel> ok, i love these
wings already just messing with them in the hangar
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L203[17:53:09] <Guest68870> [YouTube]
Title: SpaceX Thales Mission | Uploader: SpaceX | Uploaded:
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Likes: 387 | Dislikes: 6
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L205[17:53:14] <Malachite> woo
L206[17:53:15] <Malachite> i did it
L207[17:53:22] <mucco> well I made it home
from mun
L208[17:53:26] <Neal> t -10 min
L209[17:53:29] <mucco> only took infinite
aerobraking
L210[17:53:36] <Tank2333> home o/
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L212[17:53:39] <Malachite> mucco: powered
breaking usually help
L213[17:53:42] *
Beeks is mining the CRAP out of the KSC with EVA Reports and
Surface Samples
L214[17:53:46] <Malachite> which is what i
did to avoid the use of heatshies
L215[17:54:01] <mucco> I was out of
fuel
L216[17:54:08] <Malachite> funny, because
ive done no eva reports or surface samples <_<
L217[17:54:15] <Beeks> The *crawlerway* is
a biome. I didn't know this.
L218[17:54:17] <Tank2333> oh wow just
joined for Falcon 9 lkaucnh
L219[17:54:30] <Tank2333> is this with
landing attempt?
L220[17:54:33] <Lakel> t-9 minutes
L221[17:54:33] <Blaank> no
L222[17:54:37] <mucco> making a manned mun
craft in <30 parts is challenging
L223[17:54:39] <Blaank> No dv to attempt
recovery
L224[17:54:41] <Neal> no its going to
geosycnh
L225[17:54:43] <Blaank> All for the
payload
L226[17:54:45] <mucco> especially without
the big tanks
L227[17:54:45] <Malachite> yay
L228[17:54:45] <Tank2333> ah ok
L229[17:54:52] <Malachite> sucessful
parachute deployment
L230[17:54:57] <Malachite> i'm so
happy
L232[17:55:18] <Malachite> hurray for
landing just short of the great desert
L233[17:55:22] <Lakel> Crzyrndm is there a
patch for the CFE, or warning is safe to ignore?
L234[17:55:23] <Tank2333> wow taht stream
has amazoing qualityy
L235[17:55:30] <Crzyrndm> CFE?
L236[17:55:43] <Lakel> cross feed enabler,
ksp is complaining about it not beign 1.0
L237[17:55:55] <Crzyrndm> oh, not that I
know of yet
L238[17:56:21] <Crzyrndm> haven't even
checked if it works
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L240[17:56:24] <Blaank> Why would you even
link spaceflight now with its reuploaded low-res stream?
L241[17:56:38] <Malachite> thats why i
watch the spacex streams direct
L242[17:56:42] <Blaank> Probably 1/4 res
of original plus compression artifacts.
L244[17:57:05] <Malachite> today is a good
day for space
L245[17:57:10] <mngrif> oh. better stream.
thanks
L246[17:57:12] <Malachite> new KSP +
spacex going to space maybe
L247[17:57:38] <Beeks> "Here, we see
the rocket in it's initial stage, where it creates a shroud of
steam, to encoolen the launch visuals later."
L248[17:57:42] *
Malachite needs to research drogue chutes
L249[17:57:44] <Tank2333> liquid Oxygen
never fails to enjoy
L250[17:57:50] <Malachite> the main one is
just two powerful <_<
L251[17:57:51] <Neal> aw, chat disabled.
Oh well. People would probably spam it with stuff anyway
>_>
L252[17:57:53] <Malachite> too*
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L254[17:58:12] <Tank2333> lol those looks
like strut bases
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L256[17:58:39] <Beeks> five minutes! I'll
go get ramen!!
L257[17:58:45] <maltesh> "You can't
walk to Turkmenistan", I say, "Of course I can, screw
you."
L258[17:58:46] <milaga> pff
L259[17:58:54] <Malachite> they need to
change the "return to kerbin orbit" contract
L260[17:59:00] <bigbadaboom> Tea in 5 min
everyone
L261[17:59:01] <Malachite> so that it has
the mini-objectives
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L264[17:59:34] <Dasm> They need to give me
my science back >< this is painful
L265[17:59:36] <mngrif> T-4:00
L266[17:59:40] <milaga> KCT might be a few
days
L267[17:59:42] <Tank2333>
ITSHAPPENING.GIF
L268[17:59:47] <milaga> I'm not sure I can
wait
L269[17:59:49] <Daz> Sarbian you rock for
having MM out so fast :D
L270[18:00:02] <Sarbian> 4 line to remove
and bam :p
L271[18:00:24] <Malachite> BAH
L272[18:00:25] <Tank2333> what is MM
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L274[18:00:34] <Tank2333> ah okay i
know
L275[18:00:37] <Tank2333> modul
manager
L276[18:00:38] <Daz> Sarbian I'm so used
to having it around I started adding .cfgs before installing it and
then I was sad when they didn't work. That's how used I am to
having it installed :p
L277[18:00:49] <Malachite> why does a
polar mun satellite provide less profit then a regular kerbin
satellite
L278[18:01:05] <Daz> Malachite Kerbals
don't like the word "polar", that's why
L279[18:01:07] <mucco> random
L280[18:01:11] <maltesh> Fewer people to
see your Polar Mun Satellite.
L281[18:01:15] <Malachite> come to
L282[18:01:18] <Tank2333> t-2
L283[18:01:26] <caylo> Heya
L284[18:01:30] <Malachite> the polar mun
satellite is less profit then a polar kerbal satellite. you're not
hired
L285[18:01:34] <Tank2333> weather doesnt
looks too godd though
L286[18:02:02] <mngrif> i like how they
have audio from it
L287[18:02:10] <Lakel> waited till the
edge of their window, best weather they've gotten so far from what
i udnerstand Tank2333
L288[18:02:19] <Tank2333> in 1
minute....brrrrrrrrrrwuwwuuuuuuschhhgrrgregregfgd
L289[18:02:46] <Tank2333> i hope nothing
happens
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L291[18:02:48] <LordyK> so much
buffering
L292[18:02:50] <Malachite> falcon 9 in 30
seconds
L293[18:02:55] <maltesh> Huh, I though the
changelog said things had been changd to make the bigger antennas
better.
L294[18:03:04] <Tank2333> fullscreen
L295[18:03:07] <Neal> Liftoff!
L296[18:03:19] <Neal> Just kidding, got
ya!
L297[18:03:39] <Malachite> but actually,
yes liftoff :P
L298[18:03:49] <Malachite> we are into
space soon
L299[18:03:56] <Beeks> RIP my
speakers
L300[18:03:57] <Pytagoras> god damn that
liftoff is slow
L301[18:04:06] <Pytagoras> I thought it
was failing
L302[18:04:23] <Malachite> Pytagoras: if i
remember correctly, this is a heavy satellite payload
L303[18:04:33] <Tank2333> lol i just
turned my headphones fullpower
L304[18:04:41] <VanDisaster> this is a gto
launch, pretty much max capability I think
L305[18:04:44] <Tank2333> my eas are
ringing
L306[18:04:49] <LordyK> 280 m/s in a
minute, hardly slow ;o
L307[18:04:54] <Pytagoras> Yeah, I was
getting flash back to the previous Orbital "launch"
L308[18:05:01] <mngrif> yaaaay it's
nominal!
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L310[18:05:17] <caylo> So from what I've
done so far, SAS and Gimbal do not play well together?
L311[18:05:19] <Tank2333> so
bright...
L312[18:05:24] <Tank2333> adjust the
contrast!
L313[18:05:31] <Dasm> Are they landing on
the barge again?
L314[18:05:36] <Dasm> Or trying to?
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L316[18:05:37] <Pytagoras> no
landing
L317[18:05:37] <Tank2333> no
L318[18:05:40] <Mrwohoo> link ?
L319[18:05:43] <Tank2333> no fuel for
that
L321[18:05:44] <Guest68870> [YouTube]
Title: SpaceX Thales Mission | Uploader: SpaceX | Uploaded:
27/04/2015, 03:24 | Duration: LIVE | Views: 23 | Comments: 227 |
Likes: 492 | Dislikes: 6
L322[18:05:46] <Malachite> Dasm: nope, too
close to max paylad
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L326[18:06:04] <Mrwohoo> Thanks
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L328[18:06:26] <Malachite> new camera plx
spacex
L329[18:06:27] <Malachite> meco
L330[18:06:30] <Malachite> sep
L331[18:06:32] <Tank2333> ah right spacex
is streaming over yt
L332[18:06:56] <Malachite> second stage
ignition and a beautiful engine glow
L333[18:06:57] <LordyK> yeah youtube works
a lot better for me
L335[18:07:04] <Beeks> "Aww crap, we
needed that ring, over."
L336[18:07:05] <Mrwohoo> Hey, anyone here
familiar with KSPIRC addon for KSP ?
L337[18:07:09] <Tank2333> at the last
launch with the landing how the booster fired its RCS that was damn
cool they catched that
L338[18:07:10] <Blaank> I saw some ring of
something that wasn't ice fall off.
L339[18:07:20] <Blaank> Looked like it
came off the bell.
L340[18:07:30] <Malachite> Blaank: was a
ring off the engine that comes off during first stage sep
L341[18:07:32] <Malachite> its
normal
L342[18:07:33] <Tank2333> i cant watch
youtube streams because... germany....
L343[18:07:57] <Tank2333> Blaank i think
thats normal
L344[18:08:05] <Tank2333> ive seen that
too but an antohter launch
L345[18:08:20] <Blaank> A lot of stuff is
"supposed" to fall off these things.
L346[18:08:27] <Malachite> yep
L347[18:08:27] <Blaank> Like 80% of the
rocket falls off.
L348[18:08:37] <Tank2333> lol yeah
L349[18:08:38] <Blaank> Chucking pieces
left and right.
L350[18:08:40] <ElJugador> ok
L351[18:08:43] <LordyK> well, everything
but the payload technically falls off
L352[18:08:45] <Tank2333> such a waste of
money
L353[18:08:50] <Malachite> Blaank: you do
know that the engine bell cooling is ablative, right?
L354[18:08:54] <ElJugador> i need to ask a
question: you have researched all tier 1.5 items
L355[18:08:59] <Blaank> Did not know
that.
L356[18:09:03] <ElJugador> Pick one tier-2
item to research
L357[18:09:09] <Blaank> Thought it was one
of those cooling cycle things.
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L359[18:09:26] <Malachite> iirc, the
falcon 2nd stage is cooled ablatively
L360[18:09:41] <Tank2333> would make
sense
L361[18:09:51] <Blaank> Simpler.
L362[18:09:58] <Tank2333> so inside the
bell something is tearing is pealing off?
L363[18:10:05] <Blaank> flaking
L364[18:10:08] <Tank2333> oh
L365[18:10:15] <Beeks> This isn't one of
those powered-landing ones, is it?
L366[18:10:18] <Tank2333> one adjective to
muich
L367[18:10:18] <Malachite> Beeks:
nope
L368[18:10:23] <Beeks> Ahh, cool.
L369[18:10:25] <Blaank> First stage is a
goner.
L370[18:10:42] <Tank2333> netx landing is
the CRS7 flight
L371[18:10:42] <Beeks> lol, I read
"boner"
L372[18:10:59] <Scintillo> How do I focus
my ship on the map?
L373[18:11:05] <danagor1129> hey i'm doing
the Orbiting 101 training scenario, right now i'm at the "Rise
Periapsis" stage, and it's telling me that a perfectly
circular orbit is achived when "Eccentricity = 0", but i
can't find any indicator for that on my GUI asaid form the Gene
Kerman chat window... can anybody tell me where i can find
Eccentricity on the GUI? Please
L374[18:11:40] <mngrif> danagor1129, ap/pe
= eccentricity
L375[18:11:42] <Crzyrndm> there isn't any
to my knowledge
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L377[18:11:45] <Malachite> danagor1129:
there is no stock display for eccentricity. just aim for
ap/pe
L378[18:11:53] <Malachite> ap / pe =
0
L379[18:12:07] <danagor1129> Ohh i see
thanks a lot :D
L380[18:12:11] <Tank2333> just make sure
apoapsis and periapsis is as close togather as possible
L381[18:12:14] <Beeks> Doesn't it list
eccentricity on the task window when it starts getting close?
L382[18:12:25] <Malachite> damn, thats a
long... seco
L383[18:12:27] <Malachite> eheh
L384[18:12:36] <danagor1129> task
window?
L385[18:12:40] <Malachite> 208x218?
L386[18:12:53] <danagor1129> wich window
is that?
L387[18:13:01] <PotatoKSP> dEARGOD
L388[18:13:08] <PotatoKSP> My plane just
ripped apart mid flight
L389[18:13:12] <PotatoKSP> at about
15k
L390[18:13:14] <Beeks> The one where Gene
Kerman is telling you to do stuff
L391[18:13:17] <PotatoKSP> going 700
L392[18:13:21] <Tank2333> they should fiy
the floating point thing
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L394[18:13:38] <GreeningGalaxy> seriously?
you don't get thumbnails if the craft contains mod parts?
L395[18:13:41] <GreeningGalaxy>
weeeeeeak
L396[18:13:48] <Beeks> It was nice of
SpaceX to schedule a launch for us on 1.0 day
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L399[18:14:02] <Tank2333> lol
L400[18:14:09] <mngrif> i like how the
orbit path jiggles just like in KSP :)
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L402[18:14:28] <Tank2333> its better in
KSP ^^
L403[18:14:34] <Beeks> Kap devs: "THE
JIGGLE IS A REAL THING, WE CAN'T FIX IT!"
L404[18:14:40] <Malachite> Beeks:
heh
L405[18:14:41] <Beeks> KSP devs*
L406[18:14:45] <Malachite> GG Spacex
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L408[18:15:05] <danagor1129> yeah... but
that's because i'm in a training scenario... he will be eating
sandwiches when i'm in career mode :P
L409[18:15:07] <LordyK> well flying sure
seems easier in stock now than it was in FAR. A keyboard isn't
suicidal for a start
L410[18:15:56] <Tank2333> GreeningGalaxy
oh they could have made it so that the game made a screen from your
curent view and take that as thumpnail
L411[18:16:20] <Tank2333> looks like it
renders the parts so it cant use mod parts
L412[18:16:31] <GreeningGalaxy> they could
have just made something similar to KVV that just does the same
thing as the VAB camera does, just in a oneshot
L413[18:16:44] <Tank2333> yeah
L414[18:16:47] <GreeningGalaxy> that seems
kinda shoddy that it's like that, IMO. :I
L415[18:17:07] <Tank2333> maybe they make
it better in the future
L416[18:17:23] <Malachite> sigh texture
stretching is back
L417[18:17:32] <Tank2333> big chunk of
people use mods so they will complain in the forums ^^
L418[18:18:35] <Malachite> ooh
L419[18:18:42] <Malachite> i like the more
detailed save information
L420[18:19:06] <sandbox> at least they
won't have to pay any more ;p
L421[18:19:08] <Dasm> Why do my engine
nozzles always sink into the ground when I send a craft to the
pad?
L422[18:19:44] <Tank2333> didnt they made
a video for 1.0?
L423[18:19:54] <Tank2333> a CGI one?
L424[18:20:38] <Tank2333> got it
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L426[18:20:59] <maltesh> Clearly, the
Zephyr class needs a redesign.
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L429[18:21:50] <Malachite> huh
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L431[18:21:57] <Malachite> theres a new
rendezvous contract
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L435[18:23:39] <Tank2333> starting it up
now!
L436[18:23:41] <Lakel> dont suppose somone
kbnows a mod with adjustable height landing gear?
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L438[18:24:31] <Malachite> i wonder what
ksp considers "visual range"
L439[18:27:14] <Xaiier> from a purely
technical standpoint...what is the load range, like 10k?
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L441[18:28:05] <mngrif> 20k it used to be.
idk about now
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L444[18:29:07] <Tank2333> the UK space
agnency has _ instead of blanks
L445[18:29:34] <Tank2333> physic loadrange
should be 27km now
L446[18:30:37] <Blaank> Psycic?
L447[18:30:42] <Blaank> Psychic load
range.
L448[18:31:19] <Blaank> Lakel, use the
translate tool to push them higher or lower if that is what you are
after.
L449[18:31:51] <Lakel> my problem is, the
nose gear is either to short, or too long relative to the main
gear
L450[18:32:07] <Blaank> You can change
where it is placed with the offset tool
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L452[18:32:17] <Blaank> Move it up into
the fusalage so it's shorter.
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L454[18:32:24] <Lakel> small gear + medium
gear equals serious nose down, both small gear means it will sit on
its tale
L455[18:32:37] <Lakel> guess ill see if i
cna find this offset tool then
L456[18:32:54] <Blaank> It's upper right
of VAB up against the parts menu and inside the field of
view.
L457[18:33:04] <Blaank> There is also a
rotate tool. And a tool to reset root part.
L458[18:33:10] <Blaank> All 3 are
wonderful.
L459[18:33:18] <Crzyrndm> all hotkeyed to
#1/2/3/4
L460[18:33:24] <Crzyrndm> fml
L461[18:33:29] <Crzyrndm> not
intentional
L463[18:33:40] <Guest68870> [YouTube]
Title: Live Webcast Fail | Uploader: chiefjoboo | Uploaded:
27/01/2010, 08:43 | Duration: 58secs | Views: 2,077,258 | Comments:
1,871 | Likes: 22,398 | Dislikes: 326
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L467[18:36:13] <Lakel> not quite what im
after Blaank, but thankfully it gives them just enough height with
the offset, thank you
L468[18:36:45] <Blaank> Yeah, it's a
kludge, not a real solution to a problem.
L469[18:36:52] <Blaank> It does work,
usually.
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L473[18:38:54] <Malachite> oops
L474[18:38:57] <Dasm> Something bad
happened.. I was at a station.. and when I exited time warp, it
tore itself a part
L475[18:39:08] <Malachite> trying to
rendezvous two craft in lko and ended up deorbitting one of
them
L476[18:39:46] <Malachite> im gunna need a
new lko satellite
L477[18:41:05] <Dasm> Are there space
station contracts?
L478[18:41:16] <GreeningGalaxy> I am very
disappointed in the current state of SAS. still uses up RCS fuel
like it's going out of style (I'd be hard-pressed to find a
less-efficient way to turn with RCS, short of turning on opposing
thrusters simultaneously)
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L481[18:41:57] <GreeningGalaxy> also makes
no effort to correct for small drift.
L482[18:42:03] <alx> GreeningGalaxy: i
also think SAS shouldn't use RCS unless it exhausts the torque
capability of reaction wheels
L483[18:42:08] <GreeningGalaxy> yeah
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L486[18:43:28] <Beeks> I think the SAS
reaction is linear in its strength, and maybe it should be more
logarithmic?
L487[18:43:30] <milaga> Stage Recovery
available for testing
L488[18:43:44] <milaga> (not my mod, but
I'm following it)
L489[18:44:03] <UmbralRaptor> User-tunable
PID in stock plz
L490[18:44:10] <GreeningGalaxy> I think we
honestly had better back in 0.19 or whenever before the first
overhaul
L491[18:44:20] <wagner> why do the
turboramjets have so much power...
L492[18:44:21] <GreeningGalaxy> that at
least would hold it on the mark.
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L494[18:44:24] <Flayer> ack, looks like
remotetech is going to need lots of work
L495[18:44:29] <Dasm> Question!!! Does KSP
seem to run more smoothly for you guys? My ME Timer seems to be
green a lot more now than it was in .90
L496[18:44:34] <Crzyrndm> UmbralRaptor:
hurry up and get Pilot Assistant
L497[18:44:46] <Crzyrndm> if only for the
tuner
L498[18:44:46] <Malachite> Dasm: i have
noticed that it does seem to run better
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L500[18:44:54] <UmbralRaptor> Later
L501[18:44:59] <GreeningGalaxy> current
SAS seems to think that actually pointing at the requested vector
is optional.
L502[18:45:13] <Crzyrndm> stock sas has no
integral action
L503[18:45:30] <Crzyrndm> any slight force
offset will cause it to point in a direction close to the target
vector
L504[18:45:32] <Dasm> Malachite: I loaded
up the fuel station scenario, the MET text was yellow, but it
wasn't jumpy or jittery at all, it seemed very smooth
L505[18:45:40] <Tabris-Kerman> Dasm, i'm
sitting on 1.5gb ram usage. normally i'd be on 2.5
L506[18:45:44] <Beeks> I have some small
sattilites with a ton of RCS and they're incapable of turning
toward a direction, lol
L507[18:45:46] <UmbralRaptor> ;outcome add
You craft exceeds its Jeans Length, and collapses.
L508[18:45:46] <kmath> UmbralRaptor: Added
outcome. [1050]
L509[18:45:56] <Malachite> ;mission
stats
L510[18:45:57] <kmath> Malachite:
Missions[890], Outcomes[1051], Missions given[21479], Total
possible missions[935390]
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L514[18:47:28] <GreeningGalaxy> some of my
hacked RCS megathrusters were giving MJ/middle-SAS trouble, but now
basically a stock small reaction wheel is too much for a tiny
probe's SAS to handle
L515[18:48:12] <DuoDex> the stock SAS is
one of the few reasons I still use mechjeb.
L516[18:48:13] <Beeks> yeah, I tend to
just point where I wanna go manually
L517[18:48:17] <sal_vager> SAS is,
special....
L518[18:48:19] <DuoDex> it's just
ugly
L519[18:48:23] <Dasm> nvm, I fixed
it
L520[18:48:56] <sal_vager> also, DAE
notice the translucent navball ?
L521[18:49:13] <Malachite> sal_vager: the
entire ui, in fact. settable in the settings
L522[18:49:15] <Beeks> LOL, you can climb
flags you plant.
L523[18:51:03] <regex> did they mes sup
the SAS again?
L524[18:52:07] <Lily_White> First orbit of
1.0 get!
L525[18:52:08] <Lily_White> \o/
L526[18:52:20] <Malachite> Lily_White:
grats
L527[18:52:28] <tterrag|away> my camera is
being super weird in 1.0
L528[18:52:35] <Lily_White> and I still
have enough fuel to deorbit myself
L529[18:52:39] <tterrag|away> switch
cameras and it vibrates wildly for about 10 seconds until it
settles
L530[18:52:45] <Malachite> im very happy i
decided to learn far before it was forced upon me
L531[18:52:55] <tterrag|away> in certain
settings
L532[18:53:10] <Daz> ugh re-entry heating
is killing me -.-
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L534[18:53:26] <Daz> I want heatshields
that can expand to encompass my landerlegs goddamnit!
L535[18:53:43] <Flayer> tterrag|away: i
have experienced the same
L536[18:53:59] <RokkerTheInvincible> GOD
DAMMIT
L537[18:54:11] <Malachite> Daz: if you
come in at a sane reentry angle, you should have no problem with
heating
L538[18:54:20] <tterrag|away> also they
didn't fix the launch pad grate rendering overtop of exhaust
particles :/
L539[18:54:23] <tterrag|away> that really
bothers me
L540[18:54:28] <tterrag|away> and the
z-fighting on exhaust
L541[18:54:32] <RokkerTheInvincible> A
filling fell out of me tooth
L542[18:54:32] <Malachite> also, warp to
here is epic
L543[18:54:49] <Dasm> Coming from the Mun
I went from 200 to 50 ablator shielding.. that was kind of
scary
L544[18:55:03] <Lily_White>
awefjwafeoi
L545[18:55:06] <Lily_White> STOP
LAWNDARTING
L546[18:55:08] <Lily_White> I REMOVED THE
SCIENCE JR
L547[18:55:17] <Flayer> lol
L548[18:55:19] <Lily_White> WHAT MORE DO
YOU WANT?
L549[18:55:25] <Malachite> is heat broken
on my save, or am i just a wuss? i've free-returned probes from the
mun with no heatsink
L550[18:55:28] <Flayer> its so funny to
see everybody struggle ^^
L551[18:55:29] <Malachite>
heatshield*
L552[18:55:29] <Lakel> first born is
always a good start
L553[18:55:50] *
Beeks isn't struggling, he's mining. Still.
L554[18:56:01] <tterrag|away> Malachite:
odd, I exploded just coming in from a LKO
L555[18:56:06] <tterrag|away> are you on
easy normal or hard?
L556[18:56:19] <Malachite> im in hardmode,
so i havent even gotten as far as surveys and miners
L557[18:56:27] <tterrag|away> wow I was on
normal :P
L558[18:56:28] <Malachite> tterrag|away:
hard mode
L559[18:56:53] <Malachite> i blew up a
probe on ascent, but i have had no problems reentering
L560[18:57:24] <Daz> Malachite now I'm
doing the gentlest reentry angle I've ever done in KSP and it does
indeed seem to be going better :p
L561[18:57:28] <Daz> takes forever
though
L562[18:57:36] <Tank2333> Jesus kerbals
are expensive!
L563[18:57:38] <bigbadaboom> I have made a
roid eater
L564[18:57:41] <Tank2333> 65k
L565[18:57:50] <wagner> it charges you to
hire them?
L566[18:57:50] <Malachite> i do powered
braking burns at around 38km
L567[18:57:55] <Tank2333> and i turned
revet off!
L569[18:58:10] <Malachite> Tank2333: learn
to hardmode: 118k for my next kerbal
L570[18:58:20] <Tank2333> ok
L571[18:58:26] <Tank2333> i will try
L572[18:58:41] <Tank2333> i dont watn to
loose jeb!
L573[18:58:54] <maltesh> Yeah, it kind of
looks like my days of bulk-shipping 19 Kerbals for training courses
are probably over.
L574[18:59:53] <Malachite> my two favorite
new things: warp to next morning and warp to position
L575[19:00:28] <Dasm> Someone try to tell
DasValdez that you can literally grav turn unassisted- just turn
the SAS off and the nose will get pulled down gradually
L576[19:00:36] <darqen27> I never did more
then 5, it felt unrealistic after that, and besides I enjoy having
more missions, no mission is ever the same anyways, comon thats
what KSP is all about
L577[19:00:50] <darqen27> You might go
boom, or you might have a perfect apollo 11 style mission
L578[19:01:03] <wagner> turning really
bleeds energy fast
L579[19:01:08] <maltesh> I needed those
Kerbals to man my fleets.
L580[19:01:42] <Tank2333> dasm well you
need the right angle too
L581[19:01:56] <Tank2333> otherwise you
are not going to space today
L582[19:02:04] <Dasm> wagner: Then whats a
good ascent profile?
L583[19:02:06] <Malachite> Tank2333: if
you do it right, you set your grav turn angle with the
throttle
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L585[19:02:23] <Tank2333> oh didnt thought
of that
L586[19:02:37] <Malachite> yea, its lovely
when it works right
L587[19:02:38] <maltesh> Hmm. Not 100%
surte, but it looks like Kerbal Career is still assigned by name
hash.
L588[19:02:42] <Malachite> but you have to
have a bit extra twr
L589[19:02:43] <darqen27> I use KCT, so
manning huge fleets is not logistically possible
L590[19:02:43] <kmath> f1337s
L591[19:02:47] <wagner> Dasm: ascent? i'm
talking aircraft
L592[19:02:50] <Tank2333> just saw scott
doing it because he wsa to lazy to controll that damn thing
L593[19:02:52] <darqen27> I would use RF
too but it doesnt mesh with USI
L594[19:02:59] <Dasm> wagner: I'm talking
rockets
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L596[19:03:14] <Malachite> yea, im big on
1.7 twr to straighten out squirrely rockets
L597[19:03:36] <maltesh> Kerbal
Construction Time wouldn't prevent you from manning fleets, it
would just mean that you'd have to plan more in advance.
L598[19:03:57] <Dasm> COUGH- I
accidentally upgraded my tracking station and I only have 11K
credits now... what do?
L599[19:04:09] <Malachite> my current
ascent profile for rockets is 5-10 degrees immediately, falling to
around 60 degrees at 5km, 45 degrees at 10km, and flat whenever if
feels like it after that
L600[19:04:14] <maltesh> Dasm: Resort to
cannibalism.
L601[19:04:16] <Tabris-Kerman> cheat
L602[19:04:17] <Malachite> Dasm:
satellites
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L604[19:04:25] <darqen27> I never have
enough to do to need that many kerbals really
L605[19:04:49] <asklepian> w00t... I just
eyeballed a 36 km orbit at minmus
L606[19:04:52] <darqen27> The transfer
windows are so far apart and I have a HUGE aversion to accelerating
time without anything useful going on
L607[19:04:56] <asklepian> no adjustments
were needed
L608[19:05:15] <asklepian> rocket
man
L609[19:05:18] <Jennifer> Steam seems to
think I have no internet connection...
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L611[19:05:33] <maltesh> Ultimately,
that's what trapped me in the Kerbin SOI from 0.18 to 0.21
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L615[19:05:38] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
L616[19:05:39] <Daz> wtf don't heatshields
have mass?
L617[19:05:42] <Malachite> further in good
things today: valve folded
L618[19:05:48] <maltesh> Or as I like to
call it, "The Tyranny of Kerbal Alarm Clock."
L619[19:05:51] <Daz> grumble grumble
everything exploded
L620[19:06:04] <Dasm> Supernovy: Can I be
credited as the first player to lose the game?
L621[19:06:06] <Dgr> Hi guys, is the main
site working now?
L622[19:06:23] <Jennifer> The site's
working; I'm not sure Steam is.
L623[19:06:26] <maltesh> Daz: Apparentyly
they do, but they add their mass to the center of mass of their
parent part, according to some threads.
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L625[19:06:45] <Dgr> Ah ok, Must be
something im doing wrong, still down for me
L626[19:07:13] <Dasm> Daz: Did you try to
let your craft go into the atmosphere without SAS enabled assuming
the butt of your craft would just stay pointed the right way?
L627[19:07:19] <maltesh> Oh well. Think
I'll wait until some of my more favorite mods update, and I have
more time to really carve into KSP 1.0, and take a look at Broken
Age part 2.
L628[19:07:58] <Dgr> Im the opposite
maltesh - I have all the time in the world to play, but I cant
update :(
L629[19:08:09] <DuoDex> Arsonide :
question
L630[19:08:32] <maltesh> Conolences.
Downloadign from the store was pretty much straightforward for me,
Dgr .
L631[19:08:40] <Daz> dasm no, I had SAS on
and even tried to keep it going "butt first" but to no
avail
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L633[19:08:44] <asklepian> because
physics
L634[19:08:54] <Jennifer> I can't seem to
update either...
L635[19:08:56] <asklepian> I've had the
same problem
L636[19:09:00] <Dasm> I've had issues with
re-entry orientation too
L637[19:09:02] <darqen27> DGR: What OS are
YOu?
L638[19:09:06] <asklepian> it helps to
come in much steeper
L639[19:09:17] <Dgr> windows 7
darqen
L640[19:09:29] <asklepian> aim it retro
above 70km then smash through the atmo in 1 minute or less
L641[19:09:30] <darqen27> clear your
cache
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L644[19:10:02] <GreeningGalaxy> well, that
totally failed
L645[19:10:05] <Dgr> I have cleared
browser cache, and ran cmd.exe - dns flush but still says no
L646[19:10:12] <maltesh> Others have
recommended popping a radial chute as soon as you hit
atmosphere.
L647[19:10:21] <Dgr> Thats about the limit
of my ability haha
L648[19:10:31] <darqen27> change your DNS
servers in your settings to point @ 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
L649[19:10:36] <darqen27> those are google
dns servers
L650[19:10:38] <darqen27> they work
L651[19:10:43] <GreeningGalaxy> problem 1:
NFT doesn't work in 1.0. problem 2: a class B asteroid doesn't have
enough stuff in it to fuel a mission. problem 3: [rants for ten
hours about SAS]
L652[19:10:43] <Spheniscine> Hello
L653[19:10:45] <Jennifer> I can get a
"ready to launch" box, but then it switches to "An
error occurred while updating KSP (no internet
connection."
L654[19:11:14] <Dgr> Is that on the
launcher, Jennifer?
L655[19:11:26] <maltesh> Oh, right. The
Launcher is a thing that exists.
L656[19:11:40] <mngrif> i havent seen the
launcher in over a year. #feelsgood
L657[19:11:40] <Jennifer> I think so, it's
the dark grey Steam box.
L658[19:11:46] <darqen27> DGR: Change your
DNS to the listed above
L659[19:11:55] <Dgr> I will have to google
that one darqen, thanks for the tip. Launcher just stays blank for
me.
L660[19:12:03] <Dgr> Not sure how to do it
:)
L661[19:12:11] <darqen27> Control panel,
network config, adapter settings
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L663[19:12:32] <darqen27> sorry, network
and sharing center
L664[19:12:44] <wagner> specific impulse
is terrible now
L665[19:13:10] <Jennifer> darqen27: Should
I be looking there too?
L666[19:13:38] <darqen27> I'm not sure if
this fixes the Launch problem, I had the same problem,
L667[19:13:52] <darqen27> Jennifer: Are
you unable to access the website and download1.0?
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L671[19:14:21] <Jennifer> I can access the
KSP site. I need to download it, not update it thru Steam?
L672[19:14:31] <darqen27> Oh steam
L673[19:14:35] <darqen27> steam should
auto update
L674[19:14:41] <Tank2333> didnt harvester
said that they added sound effects for little UI things?
L675[19:14:46] <darqen27> You should just
be able to run it fully updated from steam
L676[19:14:49] <Technicalfool> Jennifer,
if you got KSP through Steam, it'll update through Steam.
L677[19:14:52] <Tank2333> i dont notice a
difference
L678[19:14:59] <Jennifer> Steam is giving
me errors.
L679[19:15:06] <Flayer> restart?
L680[19:15:13] <Jennifer> Tried it.
L681[19:15:16] <darqen27> This has been a
common occurace
L682[19:15:17] <Tank2333> i use steam and
it worked fine for me
L683[19:15:30] <Flayer> steam can be wonky
from time to time
L684[19:15:38] <darqen27> Go into
properties(Right click) and verify the integrity of the files
L685[19:15:45] <Tank2333> never had
problems though
L686[19:15:48] <GreeningGalaxy> new Debian
supports ARM64. just in case that becomes a thing
L687[19:15:55] <GreeningGalaxy> (ik ik it
already is_
L688[19:15:56] <GreeningGalaxy> )
L690[19:16:22] <Jennifer> properties of...
steam? KSP?
L691[19:16:32] <Tank2333> KSP
L692[19:16:37] <darqen27> That is right
click KSP, and click properties
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L694[19:16:53] <Jennifer> And what do I
look for?
L695[19:16:55] <darqen27> Sorry, I'm
trying to remember the steam menus
L696[19:16:59] <darqen27> from the top of
my head
L697[19:17:04] <Tank2333> local files or
so
L698[19:17:09] <darqen27> Yes local
files
L699[19:17:15] <darqen27> then verify the
integrity of the files
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L701[19:17:30] <Tank2333> and the last
option should be something for to check game data
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L703[19:17:37] <darqen27> Someone was
reporting corrupted files in the first downloads from steam,
verifying the files seems to correct the problme
L704[19:17:40] <bigorangemachine> is 8m/s
still the safe landing speed?
L705[19:17:55] <Jennifer> I've got
General, Web doc, Security, Details and Previous Versions.
L706[19:18:00] <Tank2333> bigbadaboom if
you are insane.. yes
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L708[19:18:21] <Jennifer> Or if you're
lithobraking with several layers under you.
L709[19:18:47] <darqen27> Jennifer, right
click on KSP in your game library and select properties
L710[19:19:09] <Jennifer> I right clicked
it on my desktop -- wrong?
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L712[19:20:26] <darqen27> Wrong
L713[19:20:31] <Scientist> ;mission
L714[19:20:31] <kmath> Scientist: You
attempt to make an engine that runs on electricity. You
successfully lower the speed of light to 1 m/s, but your subsequent
excited rush out of the lab to announce your findings goes very
badly for you.
L715[19:20:35] <Tank2333> in your steam
libary
L716[19:20:36] <darqen27> Open steam, and
go into your game library
L717[19:20:51] <darqen27> Its okay, its
super hard to explain over text, haha
L718[19:21:07] <Dasm> 7.2K Dv enough to
make a round trip from Kerbin-Mun?
L719[19:21:31] <darqen27> Yeah, that
should give you enough for a refill on your lnader too
L720[19:21:53] <darqen27> Thats the exact
amount I use for Mun/Minmus trips, I use the same ship
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L722[19:21:57] <Jennifer> OK, I'm in, and
I see a list of games with KSP reading "Update
Required."
L723[19:22:04] <darqen27> and I can land,
dock and land again
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L725[19:22:17] <darqen27> right click KSP
and click run update
L726[19:22:47] <milaga> yikes, re-entry is
so intense now
L728[19:22:58] <Malachite> hurray for
first redezvous
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L730[19:23:03] <Jennifer> I clicked it,
and it says "download queued, 0%."
L731[19:23:04] <Lakel> any news on space
planes and heat shields?
L732[19:23:14] <darqen27> If you look on
the bottom of your library screen in the middle should be a
clickable text box with like 0 of # Downloads
L733[19:23:14] <Tank2333> the drag of an
undeployed chute is way to high for my taste
L734[19:23:25] <Supernovy> Space planes
are cool. Heat shields are hot.
L735[19:23:25] <darqen27> or # of #
L736[19:23:55] <Lakel> more specific then,
space planes come equipped with heatshields? or reliant on more
shallow entries
L737[19:23:55] <darqen27> If you click
that it should bring you into steams download manager amd then you
can click KSP to the top of the download Queue
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L739[19:24:13] <Dgr> darqen27 - Thank
you.I have been trying and failing for 6 hours, its working
now
L740[19:24:14] <Malachite> sigh
L741[19:24:19] <Jennifer> I found it. It
says 1 item paused, and downloaded: 0/156.2mb.
L742[19:24:22] <Dgr> virtual biscuits for
you :)
L743[19:24:28] <darqen27> DGR: YAY
SUCCESS
L744[19:24:30] <Malachite> i wanna be
mining ore, but here i am in hard mode grinding my silly head off
<_<
L745[19:24:38] <darqen27> It was a linux
problem to DGR
L746[19:24:40] <milaga> same
L747[19:24:41] <Malachite> whats the
retail value on ore, btw?
L748[19:24:42] <darqen27> I had to fix it
myself
L749[19:24:43] <Spheniscine> I see
complaints that the heat shield doesn't lower CoM and thus cause
problems with stability
L750[19:24:58] <milaga> and I'm super
paranoid I'm going to wipe out two pilots and have to start
over
L751[19:25:01] <Jennifer> Lakel:
spaceplanes should automatically have shields -- the black
underneath.
L752[19:25:02] <darqen27> Umm props to
sal_vagar actually for finding the fix DGR
L753[19:25:17] <darqen27> I just helped
you port it to windows
L754[19:25:35] <Dgr> So do I leave the DNS
as it is now (google public dns) or change it back?
L755[19:25:36] <Supernovy> Lakel: iirc,
space plane parts have higher heat tolerance, but no ablator
(because then they wouldn't be re-usable)
L756[19:25:38] <Malachite> hmm 100k for a
ksynch sattelite
L757[19:26:18] <darqen27> Its a better
service, i left it personally
L758[19:26:20] <Tank2333> looks like you
can EVA from the start now
L759[19:26:25] <darqen27> its really up to
your own designs
L760[19:26:26] <Lakel> suppose so, see how
it goes soon as i get a plane that doesnt want ot wobble
apart
L761[19:26:32] <Jennifer> Hm, clicking
resume, but nothing happened. It's asked me to confirm my email and
sending something. I don't know if it's related.
L763[19:26:43] <darqen27> I find my
internet everything is alot faster
L764[19:26:46] <Neal> these new fairings
are awesome
ด็็็็็้้้้้็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้༼◉Д◉༽ด็็็็็้้้้้็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้
L765[19:26:54] <darqen27> which in itself
was a problem prior
L766[19:26:56] <Malachite> Neal: please
no
L767[19:27:15] <Neal> no emotes for
you?
L768[19:27:18] <Dasm> r4m0n0ff: Thanks for
modding KSP <3
L769[19:27:21] <Malachite> spammular
L770[19:27:27] <darqen27> If its a popup
window asking for your email that is the patcher working its
magic
L771[19:27:40] <Neal> oh does it break
lines or something? It is fine on mine
L772[19:27:40] <darqen27> ^Jennifer
L773[19:27:49] <Dgr> Awesome, all
downloaded and installing now. Thank you so much.
L774[19:28:15] <Daz> hm can I see pressure
somehow? At which height on kerbin does parachutes deploy? :o
L775[19:28:22] <Jennifer> Hm. Well, I just
verified my email for it... nothing seems to be happening
yet.
L776[19:28:32] <Tank2333> why is are there
speed reckord contracts when the only thing you have at the start
has OP thrust?
L777[19:28:36] <Daz> says min pressure
0.1, at which height is that <.<
L778[19:28:42] <Malachite> 23km?
L779[19:28:51] <Jennifer> It seems to have
paused itself. Just hit resume. No downloading yet.
L780[19:28:58] <Lakel> cant break most of
them with terminal velocity from what i saw Tank2333
L781[19:29:11] <Lakel> given i didnt
exactly try
L782[19:29:21] <Tank2333> i just made the
first start and completet 5 contracts
L783[19:29:24] <Jennifer> Network usage: 0
Bytes.
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L785[19:30:09] <Malachite> time for a
ksynch sat
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L787[19:31:00] <Tank2333> there are 150
m/s 300 m/s adn 450 m/s speed record things... those look like they
where set up by someone who doesnt play KSP
L788[19:31:25] <Jennifer> Just tried
hitting "play" and got the "error occurred, no net
connection" message again. I know I have a net connection
because I'm posting just fine in here...?
L789[19:31:58] <Jennifer> Or is something
up with Steam?
L790[19:31:59] <Tank2333> is steam not
working?
L791[19:32:09] <Tank2333> can you see the
libary?
L792[19:32:11] <Supernovy> IRC is
different.
L793[19:32:19] <Jennifer> Tank2333:
Yes.
L794[19:32:25] <Tank2333> try to start
from there
L795[19:32:36] <Jennifer> Well, not at
this moment, as I'm in the dl section...
L796[19:32:39] <Jennifer> I did.
L797[19:32:55] <Jennifer> It told me an
update was required.
L798[19:33:05] <Tank2333> do you have
saves you want to rescue? you could delete it
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L800[19:33:13] <Tank2333> and
reinstall
L801[19:33:20] <Dasm> I can't transfer
fuel now?
L802[19:33:27] <mngrif> with all the
trouble you've had so far, i'd highly recommend doing a
reinstall
L803[19:33:29] <Jennifer> Tank2333: No...
but if I delete it wouldn't I have to pay for it again?
L804[19:33:36] <Beeks> I didn't lose
anything in my steam 1.0 update, so that was good for me.
L805[19:33:42] <Tank2333> dasm if you are
in carrer i think that has to be an upgrade or so
L806[19:33:44] <Malachite> eh, if you
uninstall it from steam, you can reinstall it
L807[19:33:59] <Tank2333> Jennifer no you
have the license to play the game
L808[19:34:23] <Jennifer> OK, so can I
uninstall it thru steam, or something else?
L809[19:34:24] <darqen27> Jennifer: Log
out of steam
L810[19:34:24] <Tank2333> it works like
that with all steam games
L811[19:34:37] <Tank2333> yup its just
gray after uninstall
L812[19:34:43] <darqen27> Jennifer: Make
sure your not in offline mode, and reconnect in live mode
L813[19:34:51] <Jennifer> Ok, logged out
of Steam.
L814[19:35:01] <Jennifer> darqen27: How do
I check that?
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L816[19:35:15] <darqen27> The login button
will acutally say Login in Offline mode
L817[19:35:17] <Jennifer> Steam is trying
to update automatically now...
L818[19:35:40] <Jennifer> Trying to cancel
it...
L819[19:36:01] <darqen27> Just let it do
its thing or it will force offline mode
L820[19:36:44] <darqen27> It takes about
60 -120 seconds for steam to run thru its update thing and thenif
you let it complete it wont do it anymore
L821[19:37:07] <darqen27> Until it detects
another update at lease
L822[19:37:16] <zlsa> 115 mods for 1.0
already; the mod authors are working fast
L823[19:37:19] <Tank2333> never cancel a
steam update... only bad things will happen
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L825[19:37:52] <darqen27> Yeah, You can
get stuck in the perpetual waiting for steam everytime you turn on
your computer
L826[19:38:07] <Jennifer> OK, I'll just
let it run. Clicking Steam started the update and it didn't give me
the choice to work in live or offline mode.
L827[19:38:16] <Crzyrndm> only 115?
L828[19:38:31] <Crzyrndm> where are you
counting
L829[19:38:39] <Jennifer> It was taking
longer than two minutes earlier...
L831[19:39:11] <darqen27> Jennifer:
Offline mode is selected from the Smallish Black box Login window
after the update
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L833[19:39:30] <Malachite> Dasm: nah,
you're a cheater for leaving your sa on
L834[19:39:31] <Jennifer> Ah, so I have to
wait for the install...
L835[19:39:33] <Malachite> sas on*
L836[19:40:02] <Dasm> I couldn't have held
on the slope without it
L837[19:40:13] <Malachite> then you failed
at landing :P
L838[19:40:14] <Dasm> Also.. why can't I
take a surface sample?
L839[19:40:15] <downslope7> Aw, I'm not
down that far
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L841[19:40:33] <Malachite> Dasm: building
upgrades
L842[19:40:40] <Jennifer> Aha!
L843[19:40:48] <Jennifer> OK, got the
login screen.
L845[19:40:59] <Malachite> Dasm: NOTHING
IS FREE
L846[19:41:10] <Malachite> man
L847[19:41:16] <Malachite> rep gains in
hardmode are slow
L848[19:41:32] <Jennifer> Now how do I
tell it to select live mode?
L849[19:41:36] <darqen27> Jennifer: It
just sounds like you accidently forced it into offline mode
L850[19:41:46] <Malachite> Jennifer: just
login like normal
L851[19:41:51] <Jennifer> darqen27: Yeah,
I think you're right.
L852[19:42:06] *
Malachite grumbles further
L853[19:42:17] <Malachite> kerbin
satellites should not be more profitable then mun satellites
L854[19:42:32] <darqen27> If it still goes
into offline mode then the option is in the steam menu(Upper left,
Steam, Offline mode[On the bottom of the list])
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L856[19:42:41] <darqen27> Jennifer:
^
L857[19:42:55] <SuperWeegee4000> Sunie
Kerman must be the luckiest Kerbal in existence.
L858[19:43:04] <Malachite> AHHHH
retrograde satellite detected
L859[19:43:16] <SuperWeegee4000> I can't
even count how many times she's survived insane crashes of my
ill-conceived VTOL.
L860[19:43:50] <Jennifer> The second
option says "go offline."
L861[19:44:04] <Malachite> Jennifer: dont
do that
L862[19:44:11] <Jennifer> KSP is flashing
between 0% and Payload queued.
L863[19:44:43] <Malachite> launching west
feels SO AWKWARD
L864[19:45:03] <Malachite> on top of
dropping things onto the vab... ooooooops
L865[19:45:33] <Jennifer> I double click
on KSP and get the message: Updating KSP, preparing to launch
KSP.
L866[19:45:35] <darqen27> You should be
online now
L867[19:45:47] <Jennifer> Nothing seems to
be happening though.
L868[19:45:48] <Malachite> i need to
upgrade my pad so i can use the rockomax boosters
L869[19:46:07] <Jennifer> And the Steam -
Error appeared again.
L870[19:46:13] <darqen27> Hmm
L871[19:46:28] <darqen27> Jennifer:
Something more serious looms
L872[19:46:34] <Tank2333> did you do the
data check on KSP?
L873[19:46:38] <Flayer> reinstall steam
imo
L874[19:46:39] <Jennifer> How do I get to
the screen where I can expedite the dl?
L875[19:46:46] <darqen27> She hasnt
updated yet, it would be irrelevent
L876[19:46:58] <Tank2333> maybe reinstall
again
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L878[19:47:30] <Jennifer> I was somewhere
earlier where I could push KSP to the top of the queue.
L879[19:47:31] <darqen27> Jennifer: In the
bottom middle of the steam window should be highlighable clickable
text
L880[19:47:34] <Tank2333> on the buttom i
think should be something like 1 download or so
L881[19:47:50] <Tank2333> you can make it
a favorite
L882[19:48:09] <Jennifer> Ah, that's
right. "1 item paused"
L883[19:48:21] <darqen27> CLick that and
yoru were you need to be
L885[19:48:39] <darqen27> If your still
having issues there may be other problems blocking steam, like a
firewall
L886[19:48:55] <Tank2333> lakai in the
stream yesterday they went even faster
L887[19:49:08] <Jennifer> Clicking resume
doesn't work; clicking play works briefly, but then turns back to
pause again.
L888[19:49:13] <Lakel> tell it to jeb and
bob who just got vaporized
L889[19:49:18] <Jennifer> Hm.
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L891[19:49:47] <Jennifer> The Steam error
message suggested that firewalls or anti-virus might be stopping
the dl.
L892[19:49:57] <darqen27> Well, we could
skype and you could show me your screen and firewall, best I can
do, I wouldnt expect you to TV with a stranger
L893[19:49:57] <Malachite> WAAAAAAA
L894[19:49:58] <Tank2333> is maybe steam
blocked by a closed port or so?
L895[19:50:02] <Malachite> the mun is in
my way
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L897[19:50:05] <mngrif> Jennifer, shut
down steam entirely, and reboot. there is definitely something
weird going on and starting from fresh would be useful right
now
L898[19:50:17] <Tank2333> yeah
L899[19:50:28] <darqen27> ^Thats a good
start
L900[19:50:49] <Tank2333> or use
teamviewer
L901[19:50:54] <DuoDex> Paid mods are
removed from steam.
L902[19:51:03] <Tank2333> im using that
for fixing my friends stuff
L903[19:51:03] <mngrif> DuoDex, link
L904[19:51:09] <Tank2333> realy?
L905[19:51:13] <Jennifer> 'k, I guess I'll
try that. If I don't see you again, thanks for the tips!
L907[19:51:17] <Lakel> Tank2333: were they
in level flight at those speeds?
L908[19:51:23] <darqen27> teamviewer with
someone who knows what they are doing would definatly speed things
up
L910[19:51:24] <Malachite>
etail/208632365253244218
L911[19:51:27] <Malachite> yea, that
L912[19:51:31] <Tank2333> they exploded to
around that mark though
L913[19:51:36] <Malachite> im suprised
that valve folded
L914[19:51:40] <Jennifer> Do I need to do
anything besides just closing Steam?
L915[19:51:48] <mngrif> We've done this
because it's clear we didn't understand exactly what we were
doing.
L916[19:51:49] <mngrif> lol
L917[19:52:02] <mngrif> Jennifer, nah. the
only reason we want to close steam first is to ensure it cleanly
exits
L918[19:52:02] <chris613> Do prominent mod
authors get a preview, or will we be waiting a few days at least
for updates?
L919[19:52:04] <mngrif> then reboot
please
L920[19:52:17] <Jennifer> OK, here goes
nothing. see you on the flip side.
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L922[19:52:27] <Lakel> yea i just flew it
into a 30 degree climb, just kept accelerating till poof
L923[19:52:43] <Tank2333> the hatred must
have been immense
L924[19:52:44] <Lakel> now then, lets see
where this pilotless plane goes
L925[19:52:57] <DuoDex> chris613 : I
believe MM, MJ, and a couple others are already available for
1.0
L926[19:52:57] <Tank2333> that steam is
making such a fast turn around
L927[19:53:05] <Malachite> GAH
L928[19:53:07] <Malachite> sigh
L929[19:53:36] <Malachite> wow, not only
did the mun screw up my orbit, but it also put me back on prograde
rotation
L930[19:53:46] <Tank2333> and valve didnt
do it because they want modder to have a "fair shar" they
wanted the share!
L931[19:53:46] <SuperWeegee4000> I'm going
for a radical redesign.
L932[19:54:00] <SuperWeegee4000> And by
radical redesign I mean "change the wings around a
bit."
L933[19:54:14] <Lakel> valve took 25%,
beth took 40%, modder got 25, somewhere along those lins
Tank2333
L934[19:54:23] <darqen27> Put the wings on
backwards!
L936[19:54:35] <Lakel> aaaand
splashdown/demolished at 320m/s
L937[19:54:40] <Tank2333> thats a big
money hole
L938[19:55:10] <Tank2333> both should just
get like 5% for the effort and server upkeep or so
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L941[19:55:21] <K-Mobile> Heyo
L942[19:56:28] <notthemessiah> hmm, first
thing I noticed launching is that the female kerbal in the
"Start Game" menu has no visor on her helmet, anyone else
have this?
L943[19:56:30] <Lakel> how goes it
K-Mobile?
L944[19:56:30] <Malachite> so apparently i
have a contract ill never be able to complete <_<
L945[19:56:49] <Malachite> retrograde
satellite that mimics the mun's orbit
L946[19:56:54] <Malachite> such that i
wont be able to finish it
L947[19:56:56] <K-Mobile> It goes very
meh.
L948[19:56:57] <NeonGen> god, I hate
spoilers, but if someone would have told me Interstellar was going
to be another Contact. I would not have watched it :/
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L951[19:57:40] <Flayer> interstellar was
so weird
L952[19:57:41] <darqen27> Jennifer:
W/B
L953[19:57:54] <Jennifer> Thanks. Steam is
updating now...
L954[19:58:05] <Flayer> why do they always
use such weird orbital mechanics and black holes
L955[19:58:06] <Tank2333> malachite i had
plenty of those crossing orbits sat contracts...
L956[19:58:09] <darqen27> yay another
success
L957[19:58:16] <darqen27> Err wait
L958[19:58:18] <darqen27> Just steam
L959[19:58:22] <NeonGen> oh it was her dad
... can't we have one triple A science fiction flick that isn't
tainted with psychological drama BS
L960[19:58:26] <darqen27> Hold the
champagne!
L961[19:58:40] <Malachite> NeonGen: noone
would watch it if it was just science
L962[19:58:46] <milaga> I thought you said
you hated spoilers?
L963[19:58:47] <NeonGen> I would
L964[19:58:48] <Tank2333> NeonGen first of
all contact was actuall pretty good
L965[19:58:58] <Tank2333> and i dont see
how its like interstellar
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L967[19:59:04] <Flayer> i really could not
comprehend how going to the surface of the planet would result in
time dilation
L968[19:59:05] <NeonGen> I'm sure it is,
if you like it
L969[19:59:18] <Malachite> i never watched
it
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L971[19:59:26] <darqen27> Lol
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L973[19:59:35] <NeonGen> I wanted to see
an alien race not jodie fosters dad!
L974[19:59:36] <darqen27> I have the
science channel on behind me most of the time
L975[19:59:42] <milaga> Kerbal Watching My
Parachutes Program
L976[19:59:58] <darqen27> And anything
that involves space is recorded
L977[20:00:01] <NeonGen> I wanted to see
5th dimensional beings not some damn paradox
L978[20:00:03] <Tank2333> also nowadays a
AAA scifi has to have dubios physics otherwise people think its not
real
L979[20:00:12] <darqen27> SCience
faction
L980[20:00:14] <darqen27> I watch
L981[20:00:18] <darqen27> hehe
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L983[20:00:35] <Lakel> so 927 at 18km,
bill and bob still went bye-bye, geez
L984[20:00:39] <darqen27> I guess that
would be poor terminology
L985[20:00:49] <NeonGen> oh future humans
built the tesseract to safe past human beings from extinction,
PARADOX!!
L986[20:00:54] <Tank2333> well how do you
imagin a 5th dimension in our 4 dimensional world?
L987[20:01:11] <Jennifer> Tank2333: Ever
read Flatland?
L988[20:01:20] <Tank2333> no it is pure
love that rescued humanity
L989[20:01:20] <NeonGen> It's science
fiction, they could have made something up
L990[20:01:25] <milaga> Why is it larger
in the past?
L991[20:01:27] <NeonGen> but not her dad
come one
L992[20:01:30] <NeonGen> *on
L993[20:01:32] <Tank2333> no i didnt read
it
L994[20:01:33] <SnoopJeDi> The tesseract
was surprisingly well-done
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L996[20:01:49] <Jennifer> NeonGen: It's
"A Form You Are Comfortable With".
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L998[20:01:54] <Tank2333> but in the same
time total nosnense
L999[20:02:02] <SnoopJeDi> Interstellar
gets a B from me on the "hard parts" relevant to the
plot, and a double F- on everything else
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L1001[20:02:03] <darqen27> Parallel
Dimension are pretty much a given, seems everything from star trek
is mostly possible, we just havent figured it all out yet, 23rd
century hell, we'll have warp drive by 2100 with how fast tech
moves
L1002[20:02:20] <Tank2333> no we
wont
L1003[20:02:22] <SnoopJeDi> darqen27,
"pretty much a given" is way too generous
L1004[20:02:23] <Jennifer> Haven't seen
Interstellar, wasn't impressed by the reviews.
L1005[20:02:27] <NeonGen> I hated the
drama part, not the science fiction part
L1006[20:02:45] <NeonGen> love saves
humanity and all the BS
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L1008[20:03:00] <Tank2333> well it was a
bit to much nonsense earth drama
L1009[20:03:05] <chris613> Geez, re-entry
is hard now
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L1011[20:03:21] <milaga> yes it is
chris
L1012[20:03:22] <SnoopJeDi> NeonGen, the
easy-science that got screwed up was very immersion breaking for
me
L1013[20:03:29] <milaga> hmm ...
thermometer or 909
L1014[20:03:34] <stupid_chris> milaga:
STOP PINGING ME :P
L1015[20:03:35] <Tank2333> as if the
earth is falling apart for what ever reason
L1016[20:03:37] <chris613> slightest
stick input during reentry heating and I flipped and exploded. So I
jept hands-off - went longer but then flipped and exploded
L1017[20:03:37] <Jennifer> "If an
elderly, respected scientist says something may be possible, he's
almost certainly right. If he says something is impossible, he's
almost certainly wrong." -- AC Clarke
L1018[20:03:39] <stupid_chris>
dammit
L1020[20:03:42] <stupid_chris> fine
controls
L1021[20:03:51] <wagner> youtube charges
for views now?
L1022[20:03:52] <chris613> on fine;
yeah
L1023[20:04:01] <darqen27> Jennifer:
Exactly!
L1024[20:04:03] <Jennifer> Ok,
double-clicked steam and it opened...
L1025[20:04:04] <NeonGen> that's what I
meant with it being like Contact, you go through this whole
wonderful science fiction part, travel across the universe to
another star system, get to see a giant alien city, excitement
rises
L1026[20:04:09] <SnoopJeDi> Jennifer,
counterpoint: aether.
L1027[20:04:10] <NeonGen> then you get to
se her dad
L1028[20:04:12] <NeonGen> YAY
L1029[20:04:15] *
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L1032[20:04:38] <Jennifer> SnoopJeDi:
point. But that's where the "almost" comes in.
L1033[20:04:39] <Tank2333> darqen27 tell
me where to get this negative energy with antigraviational
propertys?
L1034[20:04:46] <darqen27> A scientific
Theory, to be considered a theory, must be partially based in
fact
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L1036[20:05:15] <milaga> re-entry has
taken some practice ... I haven't done it without SAS yet ... I'm
afraid to send anyone but pilots up there
L1037[20:05:16] <Jennifer> Updating, but
still at zero, and no listed time of completion.
L1038[20:05:17] <SnoopJeDi> darqen27,
there is no experimental evidence supporting that particular
theory. The BICEP2 measurement very well might have, but it's been
deflated (heh) by the joint analysis with Planck
L1039[20:05:25] <DuoDex> does !ping do
anything here?
L1040[20:05:28] <SnoopJeDi> at least
that's my understanding
L1041[20:05:55] <Flayer> Jennifer: a
stretch, but... sufficient disk space?
L1042[20:06:05] <Jennifer> ... hm.
L1043[20:06:06] <Tank2333> NeonGen in
contact she was not realy there it was more like her mind was
there
L1044[20:06:07] <Flayer> maybe there's a
steam cache can you can delete also
L1045[20:06:14] <NeonGen> still
L1046[20:06:15] <chris613> Wow - any
other tips for keeping the heat shield pointed prograde other than
"fine controls? I basically have just a Chute + Mk1 + Science
Can+ Goo pasted on the back of the can - this is landable, right?
;)
L1047[20:06:19] <Flayer> could be
something went wrong on the first try and that is now blocking
it
L1048[20:06:23] <Flayer> i wouldnt know
where to find the cache tho
L1049[20:06:25] <SnoopJeDi> isn't there a
steamclient.blob or some such file?
L1050[20:06:30] <Tank2333> but how the
reaction was and so on was pretty interresting
L1051[20:06:32] <darqen27> Jenniefer: I
think Teamviewer would be the best option if it doesnt work
L1052[20:06:40] <Jennifer> I suppose I
could switch it to another drive..., but would Steam know to update
it there?
L1053[20:06:50] <NeonGen> you see a huge
alien city, but aliens? nope. build this giant multi-billion dollar
machine just to say hi to her dad for a few minutes?
L1054[20:06:58] <SnoopJeDi> You can tell
Steam to put games in different places now, I believe
L1055[20:07:02] <darqen27> Jennifer:
Yes
L1056[20:07:08] <Tank2333> NeonGen it was
not her dad
L1057[20:07:14] <Malachite> i wish i
could go to the customer and say "hey, this satellite is going
to leave the kerbin system if you want it in this
configuration"
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L1059[20:07:19] <NeonGen> I know, but it
was terrible
L1060[20:07:30] <darqen27> I use 2
different drives
L1061[20:07:37] <Jennifer> NeonGen:
remember, that was pretty much the alien rationale. They can't
reach us -- all they can do is tell us we're not alone.
L1062[20:07:40] <Tank2333> well if you
say so
L1063[20:07:45] <GreeningGalaxy> how long
do most people's speed brakes take to open?
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L1065[20:07:53] <GreeningGalaxy> as in,
the new 1.0 airbrakes
L1066[20:07:57] <Tank2333> i think star
trek into the darkness was terrible
L1067[20:08:04] <Lakel> chris613: need
some sort of ballast, or mod the heatshield o be the ballast
L1068[20:08:07] <Jennifer> Though,
granted, we knew that already from the fact we got the initial
message.
L1069[20:08:12] <SuperWeegee4000> So I
went just a little tiny bit too fast taking off and accidentally
the front of the plane. At least the Kerbal survived. Glad I added
parachutes.
L1070[20:08:12] <mngrif> Tank2333, that's
a very popular opinion
L1071[20:08:16] <mngrif> Jennifer, did
you get it working?
L1072[20:08:18] <NeonGen> well la die da,
meanwhile those billions of dollars could have been spent, IDK
growing food for the dying masses in africa?
L1073[20:08:26] <Jennifer> mngrif: Not
yet.
L1074[20:08:31] <chris613> Lakel: Like
something heavy on the bottom end?
L1075[20:08:46] <chris613> When I can
deploy my chute? The drag from it would help stay straight I
imagine, but it will burn up, right?
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L1077[20:08:52] <GreeningGalaxy> oh yeah,
mngrif: I met a real life Arch user today
L1078[20:08:55] <darqen27> Jennifer: What
Anti_virus do you use
L1079[20:08:59] <Lakel> chris613: check
the CoM, need it to be close to the heatshield as possible if you
want it to fall shield first, it will flip if the CoM is high
L1080[20:09:07] <Malachite> chris613: i
havent burned out a parachute yet
L1081[20:09:15] <Jennifer> I have les
than 1 GB in the current drive.
L1082[20:09:17] <NeonGen> billion dollar
single use throwaway telephone call
L1083[20:09:19] *
Beeks is not comfortable with his windows 7 lagging for 4 seconds
about once a minute now.
L1084[20:09:25] <Jennifer> darqen27: Not
sure offhand.
L1085[20:09:26] *
chris613 will try using the chute as a kite tail, then
L1086[20:09:48] <darqen27> Jennifer:
Kaspersky Anti-virus has been known to interfere with steam
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L1088[20:10:18] <Jennifer> Sounds
familiar, but I don't think so.
L1089[20:10:27] <eevenson> So do
resources work on asteroids too?
L1090[20:10:33] <Jennifer> Besides, I can
play .90 now, just not dl 1.0.
L1091[20:10:38] <mngrif> GreeningGalaxy,
my condolences. i hope their neckbeard didn't rub off on you
L1092[20:11:05] <GreeningGalaxy> he
actually did have a neckbeard. it was so hard not to laugh
L1093[20:11:07] <SuperWeegee4000> Okay so
the cockpit just survived hitting the ground at dozens of meters
per second. Several times.
L1094[20:11:11] <darqen27> Jennifer:
Without seeing your system, I am out of suggestions
L1095[20:11:13] <Tank2333> NeonGen i
think your expectation differed from the movie when you saw it i
think we leave it that way ^^
L1096[20:11:24] <chris613> Oh wow, the
chute totally worked. I was a bit scared and waited until <
2km/s, and it got really red for a second before saving me
L1097[20:11:36] <NeonGen> yeah, like I
said, I didn't like the drama stuff
L1098[20:11:39] <NeonGen> out of
place
L1099[20:11:51] <Jennifer> OK, if I want
to shift KSP to another drive, how far into the series of folders
do I have to pull?
L1100[20:11:52] <Tank2333> and again i
don think it was out of place
L1101[20:12:04] <NeonGen> emotions have
no place in scinece
L1102[20:12:05] <Jennifer> Program Files
(x86)? Steam? SteamApps?
L1103[20:12:10] <Tank2333> would be
pretty empty if it was just action
L1104[20:12:13] <Tank2333> lol
L1105[20:12:17] <NeonGen> love brought us
together... BS
L1106[20:12:18] <Tank2333> you are
trolling?
L1107[20:12:23] <mngrif> Jennifer, you'd
have steam make a new library and reinstall from scratch
L1108[20:12:26] <Tank2333> taht was BS
^^
L1109[20:12:27] <SnoopJeDi> NeonGen,
vehemently disagree
L1110[20:12:41] <darqen27> jennifer: What
mngrif said
L1111[20:12:43] <Tank2333> whatabout
space 2001?
L1112[20:12:47] <Tank2333> even that has
drama
L1113[20:12:48] <NeonGen> look there is
place for emotions, just don't have the whole plot (including the
science) revolve around it
L1114[20:12:53] <Tank2333> or emotions to
say
L1115[20:12:54] <Jennifer> Ah, so I
should try deleting KSP and reinstalling in an emptier drive?
L1116[20:12:55] <SnoopJeDi> If I didn't
have passion I'd be out of science so hard
L1117[20:12:59] <NeonGen> Red Planet was
actually pretty good
L1118[20:13:06] <NeonGen> plenty of
emotions there
L1119[20:13:16] <NeonGen> but love was
not considerd a law of nature
L1120[20:13:16] *
chris613 moved KSP to another drive by moving it and using mklink
to link the old location. But I will not be playing tech support
tonight, sorry :)
L1121[20:13:17] <mngrif> Jennifer, yeah
but use steam to do it. right click on ksp in steam and chose
"remove local files"
L1122[20:13:18] <Tank2333> wasnt red
planet the worst mars movie or so?
L1123[20:13:27] <SnoopJeDi> it was better
than Mission to Mars imo
L1124[20:13:36] <milaga> materials bay
badly in need of retexture
L1125[20:13:46] <Tank2333> i think we
agree all that love can break the laws of physics is BS
L1126[20:13:48] <Jennifer> "Delete
local content?"
L1127[20:13:54] <darqen27> Yes
L1128[20:14:16] <Tank2333> but
interstellar failed at the physic side of things
L1129[20:14:21] <Jennifer> OK, removing
all, to play it I will have to reload.
L1130[20:14:27] <NeonGen> I owuld just
like one science fiction flick about space exploration that looks
like something we can actually do as humans today
L1131[20:14:33] <NeonGen> just one
L1132[20:14:38] <NeonGen> that's all I
ask :P
L1133[20:14:40] <Tank2333> gravity
L1134[20:14:44] <Tank2333> ^^
L1135[20:14:54] <NeonGen> that's more
like a disaster movie
L1136[20:15:00] <Tank2333> well but a
movie needs drama in some way
L1137[20:15:05] <Jennifer> OK, now to
reinstall.
L1138[20:15:11] <Tank2333> or like
europa?
L1139[20:15:24] <Tank2333> its pretty
realistic ... more or less
L1140[20:15:30] <Jennifer> NeonGen: SF,
by definition, is not something we can actually do today.
L1141[20:15:31] <Tank2333> more less than
more
L1142[20:15:35] <NeonGen> ofc it needs
drama, but again, don't have the laws of nature bend to the will of
emotional beings
L1143[20:15:38] <Malachite> NeonGen: we
havent "explored" space in what, 20 years?
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L1145[20:16:14] <Tank2333> NeonGen well
that is special to some movies
L1146[20:16:31] <NeonGen> when I watch
futurama, I expect scooters powered by love on the planet omicron
persei 8
L1147[20:16:36] <Tank2333> Malachite we
are sending space probes left right center!
L1148[20:16:36] <Jennifer> OK,
reinstalling, and it has... well, gotten part of it and stopped.
Let's see how it goes.
L1149[20:16:46] <NeonGen> I don't want to
see it in a movie that expects us to take the scinece part
serious
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L1152[20:16:59] <Jennifer> NeonGen: What
if the emotional beings can bend the laws of nature?
L1153[20:17:05] <mngrif> Malachite, also
HORIZONS
L1154[20:17:10] <Tank2333> also
dawn
L1155[20:17:22] <Tank2333> and
phillea
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L1157[20:17:26] <NeonGen> then the laws
of nature are not really the laws of nature are they?
L1158[20:17:32] <Malachite> yea, but what
movies can you do about probes?
L1159[20:17:37] <NeonGen> you're moving
in to god territory
L1160[20:17:47] <chris613> lol - why the
rockomax decoupler in the tech tree before any other rockomax sized
parts?
L1161[20:17:50] <Tank2333> every single
movie bends the laws of physic to make easier entertaiment
L1162[20:18:08] <mngrif> i dont mind
bending the rules
L1163[20:18:13] <mngrif> but europa
report was just awful
L1164[20:18:17] <Tank2333> Malachite oh
you mean human exploration
L1165[20:18:29] <Tank2333> yeah it
was
L1166[20:18:35] <Malachite> shrug
L1167[20:18:50] <Malachite> you're not
gunna see a sci-fi movie about probes is all im saying
L1168[20:18:51] <Jennifer> It's dling,
but keeps pausing. I have to coax it.
L1169[20:18:54] <Tank2333> for human
exploration its about 40 years
L1170[20:18:55] <NeonGen> ofc they do, we
can't concieve techonology that doesn't exist yet, but come on, at
least doctor who gives us a whole bunch of semi-intelligible
science mumbo jumbo
L1171[20:19:17] <Tank2333> wuut?
L1172[20:19:30] <GreeningGalaxy> oh come
on Europa Report was great
L1173[20:19:33] <NeonGen> instead of
"love brought us together"
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L1175[20:19:39] <Jennifer> C'monnnnnnn...
444 of 515 mb so far.
L1176[20:19:46] <Tank2333> GreeningGalaxy
a Kraken? a KRAKEN? realy?
L1177[20:20:07] <GreeningGalaxy> why, did
KSP patent that? :I
L1178[20:20:07] <Jennifer> Most classic
sci-fi is really about modern concerns translated to the
future.
L1179[20:20:15] <Tank2333> yes
L1180[20:20:23] <darqen27> New star
wars
L1181[20:20:26] <Tank2333> i like old
scifi
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L1183[20:20:35] <wagner> apparently i
cannot attach a fairing directly to a heatshield
L1184[20:20:41] <Tank2333> darqen27 dont
even pull that one up plz
L1185[20:20:44] <SuperWeegee4000> Thanks
Obama
L1186[20:20:49] <Malachite> hey
sweet
L1187[20:20:52] <darqen27> I mean How
about them yankee
L1188[20:20:52] <darqen27> s
L1189[20:20:53] <Malachite> mechjeb has a
1.0 version
L1190[20:20:57] <Malachite> i can start
adding mods now
L1191[20:21:11] <Jennifer> Oh, fer...
it's 550 kb of 515 mb.
L1192[20:21:23] <darqen27> Dang,
slow
L1193[20:21:26] <mngrif> Jennifer, i
suggest a cup of tea.
L1194[20:21:27] <Tank2333> just let it
loading
L1195[20:21:27] <mngrif> or six.
L1196[20:21:29] <Spheniscine> lol OK...
apparently you now need to be careful with the throttle on
turbojets
L1197[20:21:37] <Lakel>
"poof"?
L1198[20:21:41] <Crzyrndm> very
L1199[20:21:41] <darqen27> There is
proibably a big load on steam for KSP downloads
L1200[20:21:44] <Malachite> yea,
turbojets are op apparently
L1201[20:21:45] <Spheniscine> Yeah
poof
L1202[20:21:52] <GreeningGalaxy> arrrgh!
I went through and changed every actuatorspeed value I could find
to 100, and all the control surfaces are STILL slow as freakin
molasses
L1203[20:21:59] <Crzyrndm> 900kN on jets
is fun
L1204[20:22:01] <Jennifer> There's these
tiny little blue lines moving across the screen but it still says
paused.
L1205[20:22:09] <Crzyrndm> although they
finally actually use fuel
L1206[20:22:11] <Malachite> jebus
L1207[20:22:14] <Jennifer> Or not.
L1208[20:22:23] <darqen27> Jennifer: Are
they flat against the bottom
L1209[20:22:26] <Jennifer> misreading it
again. c'mon you little fether.
L1210[20:22:30] <Jennifer> darqen27:
Yes.
L1211[20:22:43] <GreeningGalaxy> it takes
a whole ingame second for the control surfaces to actuate. with
fine control off.
L1212[20:22:52] <Lakel> bout to see how
forward swept wings handle, hoping ofr fun
L1213[20:23:01] <Jennifer> An error
occurred - connection time out.
L1214[20:23:08] <Tank2333> weird
L1215[20:23:16] <Tank2333> i call the
steam kraken
L1216[20:23:20] <GreeningGalaxy> in fact,
fine control doesn't even seem to change anything.
L1218[20:23:31] <darqen27> Jennifer:
Please try this
L1219[20:24:07] <Jennifer> darqen27: Hmm,
yes, this is exactly the prob I'm having.
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L1221[20:24:37] <KrakenOverlord>
Wut
L1222[20:24:44] <KrakenOverlord> I haz
been summoned
L1223[20:24:55] <Spheniscine> Also gotta
look out for those flames when going mach 3 too
L1224[20:25:31] <Spheniscine> Blow my
control surfaces off T.T
L1225[20:25:37] <Jennifer> Ok, I'll start
by switching my dl location.
L1226[20:25:42] <Crzyrndm>
GreeningGalaxy: fine control is probably faster than the
surfaces
L1227[20:25:50] <Spheniscine> I did
experiment with FAR before, but not DRE
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L1229[20:26:03] <GreeningGalaxy> that's
dumb.
L1230[20:26:10] <Malachite> yea, reentry
heat scares the heck out of me
L1231[20:26:13] <Jennifer> But that meant
I had to turn the thing off and back on again, so it's slooowly
extracting packages and installing updates again. Huzzah.
L1232[20:26:21] <GreeningGalaxy> control
surfaces aren't THAT slow IRL, are they??
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L1234[20:26:45] <darqen27> It shouldnt be
continually running the update
L1235[20:26:47] <Lakel> not as fast as
they were in pre-1.0
L1236[20:26:53] <darqen27> You have
something messing with steam
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L1238[20:27:01] <Lakel> but a full second
sounds a tad slow for fighter jets, airliners however
L1239[20:27:06] <Jennifer> It finished
quicker than before though.
L1240[20:27:07] <milaga> do you have
enough drive space? :o
L1241[20:27:10] <Jennifer> Back in
now.
L1242[20:27:20] <bigorangemachine> Is KAC
working?
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L1244[20:27:32] <darqen27> Kaspersky was
known to cause this and disabling it at startup(Computer startup)
was the fix, then once steam was done updating and logged in you
could restart it and everything was peachy
L1245[20:27:42] <darqen27> There could be
other AV programs that do this as well
L1246[20:27:51] <milaga> is there going
to be a ksp1.otrolls?
L1247[20:29:03] <Tank2333> oh gawd
stacking thos little SRBs can get you to some serios speeds
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L1249[20:29:32] <chris613> Is there any
real difference between then antennas in stock yet? The Communotron
16 is half the price of the DTS-M1 and appears to be faster with
otherwise the same stats. Does any of this matter if you're not
using RemoteTech?
L1250[20:29:33] <Jennifer> milaga: I
should have 45 gb in this drive. I think darqen27's right and the
article has the problem down. Switching dl locations though doesn't
seem to have worked, so maybe I'll try dling a free game. It says
Team Fortress II is free?!?
L1252[20:29:50] <Malachite> chris613:
afaik, not really
L1253[20:29:53] <darqen27> Dota 2 is free
as well
L1254[20:29:55] <chris613> lame
L1255[20:30:01] <darqen27> But it is huge
so better pause it
L1256[20:30:06] <chris613> TF2 and Dota2
are both highly recommended
L1257[20:30:31] <darqen27> Don't start
playing either game, we may never see you here again
L1258[20:30:50] <KrakenOverlord>
.hat
L1259[20:30:57] <Jennifer> Dota is some
sort of fantasy game?
L1260[20:30:59] <milaga> there doesn't
seem to be a lot of overlap between TF2, Dota and KSP (at least
among my friends)
L1261[20:31:10] <darqen27> Jennifer:
think League of Legends
L1262[20:31:12] <Tank2333> chris613 hm in
the changelog they said that they corrected the antannas
L1263[20:31:20] <Jennifer> TF may be
interesting, as I like some kinds of FPS's.
L1264[20:31:27] <Jennifer> I prefer
historical though.
L1265[20:31:29] <chris613> milaga: I like
all three
L1266[20:31:29] <chris613> Tank2333:
"Corrected", huh?
L1267[20:31:29] <Tank2333> dont try
dota
L1268[20:31:42] <milaga> it's the most
frustrating part of warcraft distilled down into a few
minutes
L1269[20:31:43] <Tank2333> its the most
agressive community on earth
L1270[20:31:46] <Jennifer> updating steam
window again...
L1271[20:31:56] <milaga> also yeah, hella
toxic
L1272[20:31:58] *
chris613 wonders where his dota friends are; they can't let me fly
rockets all night....
L1273[20:32:00] <Jennifer> oh, is it an
MMORPG?
L1274[20:32:05] <Tank2333> MMO
L1275[20:32:12] <Jennifer> Not my
favorite type.
L1276[20:32:25] <mngrif> milaga++
L1277[20:32:32] <SnoopJeDi> No it's a
MOBA, which probably doesn't mean anything to you if you're not
familiar with it
L1278[20:32:36] <Tank2333> but the
players are not nooby friendly
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L1280[20:32:42] <Tank2333> or moba
L1281[20:32:50] <mngrif> the players are
why i don't play it.
L1282[20:32:58] <chris613> Can the
service bay open without electricity? (can I put my reserve battery
in there?)
L1283[20:33:09] <Tank2333> never played
it just heard bad things about it
L1284[20:33:30] <Tank2333> chris i think
yes
L1285[20:33:31] <milaga> I think so chris
... it does have handles
L1286[20:33:35] <Tank2333> lol
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L1289[20:33:43] <Malachite> hurray,
minmus satellite
L1290[20:34:03] <milaga> Malachite you're
going to be raiding Jool in no time
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L1292[20:34:23] <PirateAE> Question: how
much DV to get from kerbin to mun, Orbit is 120KM/80KM
L1293[20:34:23] <Malachite> considering i
havent upgraded the VAB/launchpad/R&D, im doing pretty
well
L1294[20:34:37] <chris613> Dota2 is a 5v5
tower defence style battle originally written on the warcraft
engine. It's like an RTS with all heros and very few micro
units
L1295[20:34:41] <Malachite> PirateAE: mun
orbit ? call it 800 ish
L1296[20:34:41] <Supernovy> 900 metres
per second
L1297[20:35:04] <Tank2333> my goo just
poofed while gliding at 40 m/s donw to kerbin
L1298[20:35:13] <Supernovy> delta-v maps
are still in the topic and still work (except atmospheric
ascent/entry)
L1299[20:35:26] <darqen27> With KIS and
stuck I wonder If we could do some sort of Kerbal combat system
with the little guys
L1300[20:35:28] <PirateAE> Tank2333: Use
service bays >.>
L1301[20:35:32] *
chris613 decides to do a pass through his mods before flying this
mission. Just not the same without chatterer, MJ, and
friends
L1302[20:35:32] <darqen27> stuck =
stuff
L1303[20:35:37] <Tank2333> i dont have
them
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L1305[20:35:39] <Malachite> snovy:i just
hope some of the tools on kerbalproof get updated
L1306[20:35:42] <milaga> how many is that
in theatres per second?
L1307[20:35:44] <Lakel> am i missing a
way to determine max deflection for control surfaces in
stock?
L1308[20:35:52] <Tank2333> milgage
15
L1309[20:36:11] <Malachite> Lakel: right
click the control surface in the VAB. is it not in the item
info?
L1310[20:36:22] <Tank2333> Lakel that was
never stock
L1311[20:36:30] <Supernovy> yeah, hit
'state' and it'll deflect to its max
L1312[20:36:32] *
darqen27 watch as Jebadiah busts out his M60E6 and cuts bob in
half
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L1315[20:36:54] <Lakel> figured, was
hoping it would have been implemented. i do see that deploy thing,
but that is definetly no indicative
L1316[20:36:56] <darqen27> !ping
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L1318[20:37:08] <Lakel> mucking about
with a forward swept-wing is getting me ailerons that just barely
deflect
L1319[20:37:12] <Crzyrndm> they're all
either 15 or 20 degrees
L1320[20:37:18] <PirateAE> Malachite: im
at 677m/s so a mun flyby in 3 is out :/ a well
L1321[20:37:28] <Lakel> i was getting no
more than 5 it seemed from them
L1322[20:37:57] <Malachite> PirateAE: if
you're not circularizing over the mun, you might manage it
L1323[20:38:02] <Malachite> but you might
strand a pilot too
L1324[20:38:18] <Dewin> Now to figure out
how to tell Steam KSP is NOT already running so that I can actually
start the 1.0 update
L1325[20:38:19] <Malachite> if its a
probe, i'd try for it
L1326[20:38:27] <PirateAE> if anything
its a free return but without manouver nodes im not risking
it
L1327[20:38:51] <PirateAE> Dewin: Check
your task manager for teh ksp.exe
L1328[20:38:57] <Crzyrndm> which one are
you trying to use, I can check the deflection ingame (cause I has
mod for that :P)
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L1331[20:40:31] <Dewin> PirateAE: a) I'm
on Linux, b) KSP is definitely not running.
L1332[20:40:57] <Lakel> the b9 pcst
Crzyrndm, cant wait for far to get on 1.0
L1333[20:40:58] <darqen27> Jennifer must
have got it working
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L1335[20:41:05] *
milaga is an alt-f4 savescummer
L1336[20:41:08] <Lakel> just not managing
to get any deflection from the aileron
L1337[20:41:11] <wagner> stop steam,
restart it?
L1338[20:41:15] <Malachite> milaga: but,
hardmode :P
L1339[20:41:25] <Malachite> hurray for
700k
L1340[20:41:30] <Malachite> i might
actually be able to buy something now
L1341[20:41:37] <Malachite> oh right,
launchpad is the priority
L1342[20:41:42] <Crzyrndm> that'll be
20degrees
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L1344[20:41:47] <Dewin> Yeah, steam
wasn't letting me restart it because it was waiting for a
non-existant KSP to shut down, and it had a bazillion processes
running. Hopefully I killed it.
L1345[20:41:48] <milaga> I started over,
since Jeb was killed on my 2nd launch
L1346[20:41:53] <milaga> (and val on the
8th)
L1347[20:41:58] <Lakel> figured, its not
letting it for some reason, see about different moutns i
suppose
L1348[20:42:07] <darqen27> Dewin: Linux
distro?
L1349[20:42:17] <Lakel> the pcst i mad
for elevators works fine, but the ones for ailerons are just not
moving
L1350[20:42:29] <Dewin> Mint, but
apparently killall steamwebhelper is what I needed to do to get
steam to go away, and now it's updating.
L1351[20:42:36] <krylani> There's a new
one: CKAN itself threw a nullref. o.O
L1353[20:42:53] <Malachite> krylani:
thats an impressive level of breaking things
L1354[20:42:53] <King_Arthur>
;mission
L1355[20:42:54] <kmath> King_Arthur: You
gaze into the abyss. The outcome is consistent with predictions
based on Bayesian inference.
L1356[20:42:58] <Lakel> vaporized in 3
Tank2333?
L1357[20:43:16] <Tank2333> no
L1358[20:43:29] <Jennifer> Is the demo
the new one? If so maybe I'll try that for now...
L1359[20:43:33] <Tank2333> i have now
throttled down the boosters ^^
L1360[20:43:46] <Malachite> hmm
L1361[20:43:48] <Tank2333> Jennifer i
think yes
L1362[20:43:56] <Malachite> i should
focus on putting some science jr's places
L1363[20:44:32] <Tank2333> i always
forget to do science
L1364[20:44:54] <Malachite> the steady
drip of science in from the admin center is enough for me
L1365[20:45:01] <Malachite> since i run
the kerbal satellite program
L1366[20:45:11] <Tank2333> a mod?
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L1369[20:45:22] <Malachite> nah, just
joking about the way i progress in career mode
L1370[20:45:41] <Tank2333> i feel the
progression is way to fast
L1371[20:45:48] <GreeningGalaxy> argh.
all the big wings are too small
L1372[20:45:50] <Malachite> play
hardmode, you wont
L1373[20:45:52] <darqen27> Jennifer:
Whats the progress on it
L1374[20:46:13] <Tank2333> i just had my
2nd flight and already 258k funds
L1375[20:46:29] <Malachite> thats just
the boost from all the early record autocontracts
L1376[20:46:34] <Malachite> that does not
continue
L1377[20:47:04] <milaga> I should get a
bonus for all the somersaults I do during launches
L1378[20:47:11] <Malachite> he
L1379[20:47:29] <milaga> Kerbal
Astrobatics Program
L1380[20:47:41] <Malachite> ooh, the
exhaust ducts on the launch pad actually work
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L1382[20:48:02] <milaga> I wouldn't know,
I'm still using the chicken coop and used tire
L1383[20:48:12] <Jennifer> darqen27:
Switching between different regions, not much progress so far,
maybe because it's turning off and restarting steam (complete with
"updates") every time I try.
L1384[20:48:19] <Lakel> Crzyrndm: just
mentioning, defintly has to do with the placement, redesigned on a
rearswept wing and they have full deflection
L1385[20:48:29] <PirateAE> 21 G on shute
intal deploy >.>
L1386[20:48:32] <Thexa4> Have jet engines
always been this efficient?
L1387[20:48:38] <Crzyrndm> oh that
doesn't sound good
L1388[20:49:20] <PirateAE> Crzyrndm: if
thats at me jeb survived >.>
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L1390[20:50:43] <Jennifer> darqen27: I
suspect Steam is the problem, not my crappy computer for once.
Think I'll go dl the demo and see if it is updated.
L1391[20:51:24] <Jennifer> Connection
just timed out.
L1392[20:52:06] <Jennifer> Wasn't there a
way to knock it up the queue?
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L1394[20:54:02] <Spheniscine> ... took me
this long to figure out the "Big-S" pun
L1395[20:55:14] <Jennifer> Well, at least
the DEMO is coming through okay.
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L1397[20:56:58] <Jennifer> Seriously, I'm
half-ready to just pay Squad for a regular downloadable. At least I
could get access to KerbalEDU that way, and Squad deserves my money
for working so dang hard on this awesome game.
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L1399[20:57:33] <Tank2333> ha nice i have
to test the RT10 on a escape trajectory from kerbin
L1400[20:57:49] <SnoopJeDi> Aha! I knew I
recognized Jennifer
L1401[20:58:03] <SnoopJeDi> Librarian,
right?
L1402[20:58:07] <Spheniscine> Where are
the new mining and heatshield stuff
L1403[20:58:10] <Jennifer> SnoopJeDi:
Yep.
L1404[20:58:25] <Spheniscine> Are they
even in the default menus
L1405[20:58:37] <SnoopJeDi> Jennifer, my
girlfriend just took a job at a place that uses Minecraft to teach
kids, been trying to sell her on the idea of giving the boss a KSP
demo
L1406[20:58:59] <Tank2333> nbice
L1407[20:58:59] <Malachite> i wonder how
long its going to be until someone comes out with proc
heatshields
L1408[20:59:11] <Tank2333> 1 week
L1409[20:59:21] <Ezko> procedural parts
already has them
L1410[20:59:22] <KrakenOverlord> 0.2
hours
L1411[20:59:27] <Malachite> oh
nicew
L1412[20:59:39] <Malachite> i suppose i
should blast through the compat post and add some mods
L1413[21:00:46] <Jennifer> Unfortunately,
it's impossible to dl stuff on the work computers. I might be able
to put the demo on a zip drive and play it that way, but I don't
want to risk transfering whatever virii my own system has. Also,
I'd need lots of zip drives if it wasn't just me playing it.
L1414[21:01:12] <mngrif> THE PLURAL OF
VIRUS IS VIRUSES
L1415[21:01:13] <mngrif> ZOMG
L1416[21:01:23] <chris613> did you just
say zip drives?
L1417[21:01:26] <Spheniscine> Bye bye
48-OP?
L1418[21:01:26] <darqen27> VIRUS'
L1419[21:01:38] <darqen27> NO extra stuff
or your grammer would be wrong
L1420[21:01:48] <darqen27> i think I
might be wrong haha
L1421[21:01:50] <Malachite> aw man, did
the -48 get a nerf/
L1422[21:01:51] <Jennifer> Virusim.
L1423[21:01:56] <Dewin> darqen27: You
misspelled "Grammar"
L1424[21:02:04] <mngrif> lol
L1425[21:02:05] <darqen27> I suppose its
whatever you want it to be
L1426[21:02:15] <mngrif> Jennifer, it
would fit on a JAZZ drive
L1427[21:02:17] <wagner> Malachite: most
stuff got a pretty considerable nerg
L1428[21:02:19] <darqen27> Dewin: Lol,
finger typo not mental typo
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L1430[21:02:20] <Spheniscine> Yeah thrust
is now 18 instead of 30
L1431[21:02:23] <Jennifer> OK, it's
dl'ed. Let's take a look.
L1432[21:02:25] <Malachite> Spheniscine:
OUCH
L1433[21:02:34] *
Malachite is sad.
L1434[21:02:39] <Dewin> darqen27: I only
pointed it out because if you're going to complain about somebody
else's grammar, you should at least get yours right.
L1435[21:02:40] <mngrif> i used to play
Quake off a zip drive
L1436[21:02:51] <SnoopJeDi> Jennifer, if
you're worried about infection you could always download it from a
LiveCD environment on your personal machine
L1437[21:03:00] <SnoopJeDi> Onto wiped
medium of your choice
L1438[21:03:06] <Spheniscine> And Isp is
300, down from 350
L1440[21:03:07] <Guest68870> [YouTube]
Title: Rainbow Dash - OH COME ON! | Uploader: PMVUploader2 |
Uploaded: 04/04/2015, 23:06 | Duration: 9secs | Views: 589 |
Comments: 4 | Likes: 17 | Dislikes: 0
L1441[21:03:16] <Jennifer> Live CD
environment?
L1442[21:03:26] <wagner> a bootable
cd
L1443[21:03:28] <Dewin> cp -varl ksp/*
ksp_stock-1.0
L1444[21:03:30] <Dewin> now for
mods!
L1445[21:03:31] <SnoopJeDi> A "Live
CD" is an OS on a disc/etc.
L1446[21:03:40] <darqen27> I didnt even
complain
L1447[21:03:56] <Jennifer> But if I
insert a CD-Rom, won't THAT get infected?
L1448[21:03:56] <darqen27> I think
L1449[21:04:04] <darqen27> whatever
L1450[21:04:09] <Dewin> Jennifer: CD-ROMs
are read only by nature
L1451[21:04:16] <darqen27> aaaand, onto
the next thing
L1452[21:04:25] <Jennifer> hm.
L1453[21:04:32] <SnoopJeDi> Jennifer,
well you wouldn't be running anything infected even if that was a
viable infection vector
L1454[21:04:35] <Dewin> Though obtaining
liveCD media might be kind of difficult if you can't trust your own
system to correct it.
L1455[21:04:46] <Jennifer> Will have to
look for that.
L1456[21:04:48] <SnoopJeDi> which is
sooorta is? You can burn a LiveCD/etc. without finishing the
session, so it's semi-plausible
L1457[21:04:48] <Spheniscine> But engines
got huge tweaks. Like there is now a clear separation between atmo
engines and vacuum engines
L1458[21:04:48] <Dewin> (If your machine
is infected, perhaps you should focus on fixing that...)
L1459[21:05:08] <Jennifer> Is liveCD the
only term for this OS-on-a-disc?
L1460[21:05:17] <SnoopJeDi> It's the most
generally used one, even if it's not a CD per se
L1462[21:05:22] <Spheniscine> Vacuum
engines get huge nerfs to thrust and Isp in atmo
L1463[21:05:32] <darqen27> Well I guess
im no longer needed here. Good luck with that Jennifer
L1465[21:05:55] <Malachite> Spheniscine:
i dont mind that somuch
L1466[21:06:16] <PirateAE> *facepalm* how
did a kerbal get out there >.> ive yet to get out LKO
>.> ive got a mission recover a kerbal whos midway between
the mun and mimus on a 40ish inclined orbit >.>
L1467[21:06:16] <wagner> wait... those
paid skyrim mods, the mod authors only got 25% of the sales?
L1468[21:06:29] <Malachite> wagner: would
have, yes
L1469[21:06:31] <Crzyrndm> ok, so 700m/s
is "safe" at sea level
L1470[21:06:32] <Malachite> in increments
of $100
L1471[21:06:37] <wagner> that's
pathetic
L1472[21:06:43] <Crzyrndm> 800 and things
start heating real quick
L1473[21:06:49] <Jennifer> OK, now it's
going at a good enough clip to estimate a finish time -- 38
hours.
L1474[21:06:49] <Malachite> now you
understand the outrage
L1476[21:08:08] <Jennifer> Let's see this
KSP demo. It's got a version of career on it now, hasn't it?
L1477[21:08:37] <Jennifer> Not
responding. Frag.
L1478[21:09:25] <darqen27> Lol, just
steam and another software company trying to money grab. I'm sick
of that crap. How many games in my Steam library are total trash
with no chance for a refund from them
L1479[21:10:20] <Jennifer> Aw,
Valentina's on the start screen!
L1480[21:10:23] <Spheniscine> The mach
barrier is a real thing... actually I tried out FAR and I didn't
think the mach barrier was that strong
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L1482[21:10:32] <KrakenOverlord> Who did
Val replace?
L1483[21:10:38] <KrakenOverlord> Was it
Bill or Bob?
L1484[21:10:39] <mngrif> nobody
L1485[21:10:41] <SnoopJeDi> Jennifer,
AFAIK the demo is 0.18, so that's before career existed
L1486[21:10:43] <mngrif> she's a new
Badass
L1487[21:10:49] <Lakel> almost completely
dependent on wing design Spheniscine
L1488[21:10:51] <Spheniscine> No one. She
shows up when you click Start Game
L1489[21:11:02] <Jennifer> Nope, the demo
has Val in it so it's 1.0.
L1490[21:11:04] <PirateAE> also how good
was my first orbit with 1.0, 3700 DV
L1491[21:11:13] <Supernovy> yeah the demo
has been updated
L1492[21:11:31] <Spheniscine> Camera pans
away from the original three and switches to her
L1493[21:11:34] <Jennifer> Kraken, I'll
have to check to see whether the third Kerbal is terrified or
mildly concerned.
L1494[21:11:36] <Spheniscine> Switches
back when you return
L1495[21:11:37] <Lakel> fact remains a
brick "can" go mach 5, but there's a reason for them
swept wings
L1496[21:11:48] <SnoopJeDi> oh cool
Supernovy
L1497[21:12:26] <Dewin> wagner: It was
Bethesda, not Valve, that set that percentage according to what
I've seen. Everyone keeps yelling at Valve about it, I think it's a
bit misplaced.
L1498[21:12:28] <Supernovy> Indeed,
SnoopJeDi
L1499[21:12:49] <Dewin> (Valve does get a
cut, the same cut they on all Steam transactions, it's not
75%!)
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L1501[21:13:45] <wagner> looks like
bethesda got 45%, so valve got the extra 30%
L1502[21:14:02] <Malachite> its over
anyway
L1503[21:14:05] <PirateAE> wondering how
good my first orbit in 1.0 is relitive to the masses, ~3700
DV
L1504[21:14:14] <Malachite> PirateAE:
thats about on spot
L1505[21:14:28] <SnoopJeDi> Yea they're
axing the paid thing because of the community rage apparently
L1506[21:14:30] <Spheniscine> Did you
calculate that the hard way
L1507[21:14:46] <PirateAE> Spheniscine:
me?
L1508[21:14:52] <Spheniscine> Yeah
dV
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L1510[21:15:02] <PirateAE> no KER
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L1512[21:15:13] <Beeks> Anyone know a bit
about hard drives and what they look like as they're failing?
L1513[21:15:18] <Spheniscine> Oh it's
updated already? *checks all da mods again*
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L1515[21:15:29] <milaga> orbit!
L1516[21:15:29] <Spheniscine> The mod I
miss most right now is Trajectories though
L1517[21:15:31] <PirateAE> Spheniscine:
yea there is a 1.0 version
L1518[21:15:37] <milaga> w/ 4 units of
fuel to remain to get me back home
L1519[21:15:43] <Malachite> milaga:
heh
L1520[21:15:47] <PirateAE> otherwise im
runnign stock atm
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L1522[21:16:05] <milaga> I think I'm
going to let val aerobrake while I eat dinner
L1523[21:16:14] <Hyratel> .kf KER
L1525[21:16:37] <chris613> I don't like
the translecent navball
L1526[21:16:46] <Malachite> chris613:
settable in the settings
L1527[21:16:55] <chris613> oh, sweet -
thanks!
L1528[21:16:58] <PirateAE> milaga: my
last burst with .9 had a similar situation, 400km AP, 61 PE...
nearly 20 orbits before finaly reentry
L1529[21:17:06] <Hyratel> 0.90
L1530[21:17:14] <Hyratel> it's not a
decimal, it doesn't reduce
L1531[21:17:20] <PirateAE>
>.>
L1532[21:17:22] <milaga> StageRecovery
working, with RealChutes
L1533[21:17:43] <milaga> my apo is only
89km so it shouldn't be that bad
L1534[21:17:52] <milaga> barely in
orbit
L1535[21:17:53] <Malachite> and first
minmus landing woo
L1536[21:18:01] <Spheniscine> I wonder
how much dV to make Eve orbit now lol
L1537[21:18:04] <Jennifer> Huh, you can
get quite a bit of science to start with.
L1538[21:18:05] <Malachite> and my first
million, so i might upgrade R&D soon
L1539[21:18:13] <milaga> no somersaults,
but I took the fins off
L1540[21:18:19] <milaga> fins bad
L1541[21:19:17] <PirateAE> fins are ok,
if you arent turning or very little turning but if you try a full
gavity turn amount of turn, stick to gims
L1542[21:19:20] <milaga> we might have
KCT tonight! :o
L1543[21:19:24] <milaga> I'll restart
again if so
L1544[21:19:50] <darqen27> KCT is a must
have
L1545[21:19:52] <PirateAE> KCT?
L1546[21:20:01] <darqen27> Kerbal
Construction Time
L1547[21:20:08] <PirateAE> ah
L1548[21:20:23] <Malachite> oh, did that
get updated too?
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L1550[21:20:41] <Malachite> ;kf kct
L1551[21:20:45] <Flayer> not yet
L1552[21:20:47] <Malachite> .kf kct
L1554[21:20:55] <Malachite> aww
L1555[21:21:02] <Spheniscine> Question:
Are the drills and heatshields available in the default menus, or
are they hidden in the advanced stuff
L1556[21:21:13] <Spheniscine> I can't
find them under Utility
L1557[21:21:28] <Spheniscine> Seriously
they should spilt Utility. Too much stuff there, especially with
mods
L1558[21:21:28] <Flayer> drills are under
utility, heatshields under aerodynamics
L1559[21:21:40] <Spheniscine> Hm
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L1563[21:22:35] <Malachite> onwards... to
ike
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L1568[21:24:49] <Crzyrndm> 710m/s @ 10m
=> 750K, 715m/s@10m => 1300+
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L1570[21:25:03] <Crzyrndm> dont go over
700m/s at sea level follks
L1571[21:25:04] <Dewin> Oh forum posts.
"PreciseNode 1.1.2<--- Requires update but works in 1.0
just fine." 1.1.2 is the same build since Dec 2014.
L1572[21:25:34] <Dewin> I'm going to play
'mostly' stock, but there are a few must-haves for me
L1573[21:25:51] <daffy> Is there an
in-game IRC now?
L1574[21:25:57] <Jennifer> Hi
Kwirky!
L1575[21:26:05] <Kwirkilee> KER, KAC,
KAS, PAPI...
L1576[21:26:18] <Kwirkilee> Jennifer: um,
hi. been a while?
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L1578[21:26:27] <Spheniscine> Oh yeah
PreciseNode is a must-have for me too - too annoying to switch the
camera back and forth
L1579[21:26:41] <milaga> oh, I forgot
that one ... well, I won't wait for it
L1580[21:26:47] <Supernovy> daffy: there
is a mod for it, I don't know how updated it is
L1581[21:26:48] <Malachite> aw man
seriously
L1582[21:26:49] <Lakel> funny,
leading-edge slats. gotta deploy them upwards and tons of nose up
induced
L1583[21:26:59] <Dewin> Supernovy: It's
on the list of 1.0 mods, from what I saw
L1584[21:27:02] <Malachite> they didnt
change the post-kerbin system planets to the new contract
methods?
L1585[21:27:06] <Malachite>
weeeeeaaaaakkkkkk
L1586[21:27:13] <milaga>
whatchumean?
L1587[21:27:32] <Flayer> i hope the
contracts will at least generate properly now?
L1588[21:27:34] <Malachite> instead of
flyby/orbit/land its explore for everything after minmus
L1589[21:27:51] <Supernovy> worst update
ever 0/10
L1590[21:28:06] <Flayer> i had a lot of
trouble getting those exploration contracts in the past
L1591[21:28:27] <zlsa> a few days ago I
stopped trying to play realistically
L1592[21:28:28] <Kwirkilee>
"Horrible release featureset, would not play again. 8/10"
--IGN
L1593[21:28:30] <zlsa> now KSP is fun
again
L1594[21:28:33] <Malachite> heh
L1595[21:28:39] <Malachite> i havent
messed with the mining stuff yet
L1596[21:28:46] <Malachite> so really its
just the same ksp as before <_<
L1597[21:28:56] <drazed> hi everyone! 1.0
YAY... new fairings BOO!!!! they really really suck :( maybe
because they don't render properly on my system though, look like
absolute garbage twiching in and out of existance
L1598[21:28:56] <Lakel> poor jeb,
subjected him to 23Gs before i blinked and ran him through the
VAB
L1599[21:29:02] <Malachite> with a few
new parts and nerfed engines :P
L1600[21:29:09] <Kwirkilee> I have
existential complaints with designating the mined 'protofuel' as
"Ore"
L1601[21:29:21] <drazed> did anyone in
experimentals actually test 64bit linux support?
L1602[21:29:38] <Addle> drazed,
Sure
L1603[21:29:51] <Dewin> drazed: What
graphics card?
L1604[21:29:56] <Hyratel> drazed, that
sounds like graphics card problems
L1605[21:29:57] <Jennifer> Kwirkilee:
Yep. Haven't played in quite a while. Work is crazy, went on
vacation, computer is frustratingly crappy...
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L1607[21:30:20] <Supernovy> Kwirkilee:
They apparently have a good reason to call it that.
L1608[21:30:21] <Hyratel> drazed, also,
the decision not to do win-KSP64 came from the top
L1609[21:30:23] <Addle> KSP 64 bit has
worked just fine for me.
L1610[21:30:40] <Addle> (For Linux,
obviously, duh)
L1611[21:30:42] <Dewin> Hyratel: He
specifically asked about Linux x64
L1613[21:31:06] <Fetch> I'm trying to do
the new ferry contracts (career mode), but when I put the tourist
in a command module and use a probe command module (stayputnik), I
don't see the tourist's destination in map view. I see other
contract targets, though
L1614[21:31:14] <drazed> I use the
OPENSOURCE ati driver... that is likely the reason (the card is
pretty powerful, the opensource driver maybe not as much)
L1615[21:31:19] <Flayer> ATI :(
L1616[21:31:22] <Addle> ^
L1618[21:31:24] <Guest68870> [YouTube]
Title: KSP SRB stacking | Uploader: Tank2333 | Uploaded:
28/04/2015, 02:26 | Duration: 28secs | Views: N/A | Comments: 0 |
Likes: N/A | Dislikes: N/A
L1619[21:31:26] <Fetch> am I doing
something stupid? Do tourists have to get ferried with
planes?
L1620[21:31:26] <drazed> everything else
works great
L1621[21:31:33] <drazed> but the fairings
suck big time :(
L1622[21:31:36] <Supernovy> Fetch: I
don't think it generates a destination in the map view.
L1623[21:31:37] <Hyratel> Fetch, what's
the destination?
L1624[21:31:39] <drazed> make me almost
angry suck
L1625[21:31:40] <Kwirkilee> "so what
did you dig out of the ground?" "Ore!" "Oh, you
gonna melt it down into some metal or something?" "What?
No! It gets turned into rocket fuel." "Oh. Wait,
what?"
L1626[21:31:41] <Addle> heh I love the
fairings.
L1627[21:31:42] <Jennifer> Hm, is the goo
canister smaller now?
L1628[21:31:43] <Dewin> drazed: Yeah,
I've heard bad things about ATI drivers and KSP.
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L1630[21:31:47] <Addle> But pFairings is
updated. heh
L1631[21:31:50] <Flayer> did you make the
decision to install linux after you bought the computer?
L1633[21:31:52] <mngrif> Jennifer, it
feels like it yeah
L1634[21:31:56] <drazed> like I said,
EVERYTHNIG else works great
L1635[21:31:56] <Fetch> it just says
"Hanbro's Travel Itinerary"
L1636[21:32:01] <Flayer> I really don't
understand why people who use linux have ATI cards lol
L1637[21:32:03] <Supernovy> You just have
to go to suborbit/orbit/whatever it says
L1638[21:32:14] <Fetch> ah, so the
destination doesn't matter?
L1639[21:32:21] <Addle> Flayer, It's sad,
but yeah.
L1640[21:32:21] <Hyratel> Fetch, it does
matter
L1641[21:32:23] <drazed> the procedural
fairings ones looked great... not sure why they couldn't get this
right
L1642[21:32:26] <Hyratel> but it's not a
Coordinate Place
L1643[21:32:32] <Supernovy> what does it
say under 'itinerary'?
L1644[21:32:33] <Tank2333> wow that makes
no sense for a ferrie
L1645[21:32:39] <Jennifer> Valentina is
first to fly in this demo.
L1646[21:32:44] <mngrif> Flayer, at the
time, ATI was the better option.
L1647[21:32:49] <Flayer> its just so
horrible in terms of driver support
L1648[21:32:50] <Tank2333> with my ones
opnly suborbital
L1649[21:32:51] <Kwirkilee> drazed: for
the same reason they rejected KAC code for 'warp to whenever' and
the RealChute codebase
L1650[21:32:52] <Fetch> Supernovy:
"Suborbital flight on Kerbin"
L1651[21:32:55] <Flayer> ATI has never
been good on linux afaik
L1652[21:33:02] <Addle> P.S. If you're
looking for NavHud, look at the end of the thread.
L1653[21:33:08] <Hyratel> Fetch, then do
that
L1654[21:33:08] <Flayer> like, since
2003
L1655[21:33:15] <wagner> not in the 15
years i've been using it graphically
L1656[21:33:23] <Supernovy> Flayer: then
you just need to get the tourist into space. It'd be hard to mark
all of space in the map view...
L1657[21:33:25] <Hyratel> Fetch, the
tourist contfracts are "verb" not "Noun"
L1658[21:33:28] <Supernovy> * Fetch
L1659[21:33:30] <kroker> Flayer: hold
overs from teens with no money wanting an operating system but
didn't understand how to torrent windows
L1660[21:33:35] <Supernovy> too many F
nicks
L1661[21:33:36] <drazed> yeah when I got
it was better option... and their opensource driver is actually
decent sometime (and I HATE propriatary graphic drivers they are
might be faster and have more effects but cause major stability
issues)
L1662[21:33:49] <mngrif> ^
L1663[21:34:02] *
wagner has never had "major stability issues" with nvidia
drivers
L1664[21:34:09] <Hyratel> hey hey, easy
folks. lets not get into hardware/OS politics
L1665[21:34:18] <Addle> Yeah, NVidia ones
are fiiiiine.
L1666[21:34:24] <drazed> anyhow, just
thought I would come chime in how much I HATE broken fairings in
1.0 release (they should have released this stuff before 1.0 to
iron out crap like this)
L1667[21:34:24] <wagner> make all the
complains about open source vs. binary blobs, they just work
L1668[21:34:32] <Spheniscine> Anyone got
the new contracts yet? I think there's grand tour, expanded rescue
missions (high orbit, other worlds, surface), ISRU delivery, and
tourism
L1669[21:34:45] <PotatoTrumpet> drazed,
fairings are broken?
L1670[21:34:46] <Supernovy> There's
recover-part ones too
L1671[21:35:11] <Flayer> PotatoTrumpet:
graphical bug with some drivers
L1672[21:35:14] <Jennifer> Dang my PC is
slow.
L1673[21:35:16] *
Kwirkilee repeats discontent with a single beta release, into which
many new features were introduced
L1674[21:35:17] <Hyratel> drazed, take
screenshots, document your hardware/OS setup and log it in the
public bugtracker
L1675[21:35:21] <PotatoTrumpet> What
drivers?
L1676[21:35:29] <Kwirkilee>
s/introduced/injected/
L1677[21:35:29] <Spheniscine> Supernovy:
So like rescue except with claws and heatshields?
L1678[21:35:30] <Flayer> open source ATI
linux
L1679[21:35:36] <PotatoTrumpet>
Whew
L1680[21:35:44] <Supernovy> Spheniscine:
or cargo bays
L1681[21:35:45] <Lakel> well ker is a tad
off on burn times
L1682[21:36:24] <Jennifer> Rookie
mistake: Had my rocket and chute on the same stage...
L1684[21:36:51] <Kwirkilee> missing
feature/part: a ramp/tail for the Mk3 fuselage cargo bays
L1685[21:36:57] <GreeningGalaxy>
hmh
L1686[21:36:57] <Hyratel> drazed,
oh
L1687[21:36:58] <drazed> and yeah I get
similar issue with the new cargo bays (but NOT the old ones)
L1688[21:36:59] <Hyratel> hmm
L1689[21:37:05] <Jennifer> And for all
that they added heat shields, they still didn't make it possible to
burn the chutes away.
L1690[21:37:06] <Hyratel> check if
antialiasing is on or off
L1691[21:37:11] <drazed> off
L1692[21:37:14] <Hyratel> turn it
on
L1693[21:37:18] <PotatoTrumpet> I just
thought, there is a possibility that someone I know IRL is on
here
L1694[21:37:21] <drazed> haha, that
simple?
L1695[21:37:21] <Hyratel> to 2x
L1696[21:37:38] <milaga> Hi
Trumpet!
L1697[21:37:48] *
PotatoTrumpet runs
L1698[21:38:09] <PotatoTrumpet> All I
know is that he is a gamer, went off to some military school
L1699[21:38:10] <milaga> don't worry, I
have no idea who you are
L1700[21:38:23] <PotatoTrumpet> Know he
plays KSP
L1701[21:38:26] <Xunie> So, uhh. Any bugs
so far?
L1702[21:38:30] <GreeningGalaxy> yup,
lots.
L1703[21:38:30] <Jennifer> I'm not sure
if Val is happy or she's just gritting her teeth.
L1704[21:38:33] <Flayer> seems like a
small chance lol
L1705[21:38:38] <Xunie> GreeningGalaxy,
really? ;_;
L1706[21:38:38] <milaga> cant it be
both?
L1707[21:38:52] <GreeningGalaxy> you bet.
they created more than they fixed, as far as I can tell.
L1708[21:39:15] <Flayer> people have
noticed a few issues with the atmosphere
L1709[21:39:15] <Kwirkilee> had one odd
instance, where on launch the camera was beyond the island runway.
nothing a little zooming-in wouldn't fix, but was
disconcerting
L1710[21:39:17] <Jennifer> She survived!
Despite the mishap.
L1711[21:39:38] <Flayer> Jennifer: always
happy, bad-s like jebediah
L1712[21:40:27] <GreeningGalaxy>
Kwirkilee: I've had that one forever.
L1714[21:40:39] <Kwirkilee>
GreeningGalaxy: iirc, first it has happened to me
L1715[21:40:45] <GreeningGalaxy>
hmm
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L1717[21:40:51] <Flayer> lucky you
L1718[21:41:01] <Eshomlod> The broad
spectrum Isp is lame
L1719[21:41:07] <Eshomlod> the nerf
L1720[21:41:16] <wagner> broad
spectrum?
L1721[21:41:33] <wagner> you mean the
vacuum engines that are utter garbage in atmo?
L1722[21:41:35] <Eshomlod> I mean every
engine got nerfed
L1723[21:41:58] <Eshomlod> Vacuum engines
are garbo in space now too
L1724[21:42:13] <milaga> engines now run
on garbage, yes
L1725[21:42:15] <Spheniscine> It's kinda
expected when they tweaked the atmo, now that less dV is needed to
get to space. But yeah the vacuum
L1726[21:42:29] <Eshomlod> ^
L1727[21:42:52] <Eshomlod> I mean I'm
using a poodle right now and it lost 40 seconds :/
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L1729[21:43:14] <Flayer> you shouldn't
have gotten so attached
L1730[21:43:26] <milaga> too many
struts
L1731[21:43:37] <Eshomlod> I'm pretty
sure no one thought they'd nerf the engines like this
L1732[21:43:37] <wagner> Eshomlod: they
perform comparably to real-world hypergolic engines
L1733[21:44:00] <wagner> actually, they
perform considerably better than real world engines
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L1735[21:44:13] <Fetch> does anyone have
a good model they use for tourist flights early on? putting a ball
at the end of the capsule makes for a crazy unstable craft
L1736[21:44:23] <milaga> the nerf is so
bad I'm rerolling a rogue
L1737[21:44:30] <KyleKidd> Holy
Guacamole, 1.0 is out. I just found out
L1738[21:44:36] <Eshomlod> I'm tempted to
just edit the part files and fix this
L1739[21:44:40] <Supernovy> Hey KyleKidd,
how's the wife?
L1740[21:44:46] <KyleKidd> good.
L1741[21:44:51] <milaga> welcome
back
L1742[21:44:59] <KyleKidd> she went to
the gym, so I think I'm either going to do some recording or stream
on twitch
L1743[21:45:08] <Flayer> wow, resorting
to cheating already, Eshomlod ^^
L1744[21:45:15] <KyleKidd> thanks, I
havnt been in the KSP scene for a few weeks
L1745[21:45:19] <Jennifer> I notice there
are design flaw severities. The worst of which is a skull and
crossbones...
L1746[21:45:30] <Eshomlod> Not cheating
if I think the change is dumb
L1747[21:45:36] <Eshomlod> ANd I call the
change dumb
L1748[21:45:42] <Flayer> whatever makes
it work for ya
L1749[21:45:45] <KyleKidd> been working
12 hour days, really gets in the way of my hobby
L1750[21:45:45] <PirateAE> First time for
everything, how do you partclip say a secon engine on a fuel
tank?
L1751[21:45:51] <Jennifer> 700 kb
downloaded! I am smokin'!
L1752[21:45:52] <milaga> kerbals don't
have bones ... they are supported by a system of fluid filled
bladders and ...
L1753[21:45:56] <Kwirkilee> I buld a
plane, I put on the new landing gear. Clippy-analogue complains
that it has no landing gear.
L1754[21:46:05] <Jennifer> They have
skulls.
L1755[21:46:09] <Kwirkilee> "Hey,
looks like you're trying to build a spaceplane, need some
help?"
L1756[21:46:24] <milaga> jennifer I am
not going to ask how you know
L1757[21:46:25] <wagner> Eshomlod:
alternatively, we could have 400+ Isp, but you have to deal with
tank boiloff
L1758[21:46:28] <KyleKidd> so with the
resource collection, did they just partner with kethane or
something?
L1759[21:46:42] <KyleKidd> or did they
actually do their own thing?
L1760[21:46:42] <Kwirkilee> KyleKidd:
Karbonite's creator, RoverDude
L1761[21:46:44] <milaga> tank boiloff +
KCT = fun
L1762[21:46:49] <Flayer> are you using
the smallest cessna-like wheels Kwirkilee?
L1763[21:46:51] <Jennifer> milaga: What,
you never saw the Dia de los Muertos video?
L1764[21:46:56] <KrakenOverlord>
heh
L1765[21:46:58] <Kwirkilee> Flayer:
yup
L1766[21:47:06] <Flayer> they don't
register as wheels apparently ^^
L1767[21:47:08] <KyleKidd> makes sense,
RoverDude is like a master mod maker
L1768[21:47:15] <PirateAE> First time for
everything, how do you partclip say a secon engine on a fuel
tank?
L1769[21:47:15] <milaga> I thought some
of their fluid filled bladders were just white
L1770[21:47:20] <KyleKidd> i hope he got
compensated very well for it too
L1771[21:47:37] <Jennifer> Val is a
disgrace to her gender, but gets in the history books anyway. Jeb's
turn!
L1772[21:47:43] <KrakenOverlord>
heh
L1773[21:47:58] <PotatoTrumpet> Hmm
L1774[21:48:15] <KyleKidd> omg, besiege
was updated as well!
L1775[21:48:15] <PotatoTrumpet> So, I
made a small jet that goes so fast it's wings rip off
L1776[21:48:17] <KyleKidd> what a
day!
L1777[21:48:23] <PotatoTrumpet> any
solution to make the wings last longer?
L1778[21:48:34] <wagner> altitude
L1779[21:48:35] <Kwirkilee>
PotatoTrumpet: throttle back?
L1780[21:48:36] <milaga> Jennifer: Jeb is
... a hero ... to his ...
L1781[21:48:39] <PirateAE> struts
:P
L1782[21:48:53] <PotatoTrumpet>
Kwirkilee, both you and I know that is not an option
L1783[21:49:01] <Tank2333> is it illegal
to store landing legs in a service bay?
L1784[21:49:09] <chris613> lol at
"my jet goes too fast"
L1785[21:49:15] <Eshomlod> Oh hey they
made the aerospike completely useless
L1786[21:49:18] <Eshomlod> Good Job
L1787[21:49:19] <darqen27> Kerbal Joint
Reinforcement
L1788[21:49:26] <darqen27> No struts more
FPS
L1789[21:49:41] <darqen27> 1.0
compat
L1790[21:49:47] <Ezko> Eshomlod: sounds
like you're having a hard time :(
L1791[21:49:48] <Spheniscine> Yeah I'm
not sure why the aerospike no longer spikes aero
L1792[21:50:01] <Eshomlod> I'm annoyed
because the logic behind the nerf makes no sense
L1793[21:50:10] <PirateAE> the spike is
apprently best for eve now
L1794[21:50:14] <Tank2333> how was it
nerfed?
L1795[21:50:16] <Ezko> yes it does as
someone explained just a moment ago
L1796[21:50:40] <Eshomlod> What
L1797[21:50:46] <Spheniscine> Tank2333:
Curve similar to other "lifter" engines
L1798[21:50:47] <Ezko> no more
souposphere -> no more need for overpowered engines
L1799[21:50:52] <Eshomlod> :|
L1800[21:50:52] <Tank2333> oh
L1801[21:50:56] <Tank2333> wait
what?
L1802[21:51:12] <Flayer> Eshomlod has a
hard time coming to terms with playing early access lol
L1803[21:51:14] <Tank2333> but thats the
point of a aerospike
L1804[21:51:23] <Eshomlod> No longer
early access
L1805[21:51:31] <Flayer> Indeed.
L1806[21:51:38] <PirateAE> Tank2333: with
the reworked atmosphear its alot easier to get to orbit, ~3700
instead of 4500.
L1807[21:51:46] <Hyratel> drazed, did
that fix it?
L1808[21:51:48] <darqen27> Hmm TACLS or
USI
L1809[21:51:49] <Flayer> So everything
you see now, is what you should expect to have seen for the first
time.
L1810[21:51:57] <Flayer> USI all the way
darqen27
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L1814[21:52:05] <drazed> reloading now...
didn't fix it without reload that was certain
L1815[21:52:13] <darqen27> USI is simpler
but TACLS is what I've lived happily with for so long
L1816[21:52:20] <Eshomlod> They nerfed
almost every engine though, even the ones destined for vaccum
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L1818[21:52:35] <Eshomlod> vacuum*
L1819[21:53:03] <darqen27> Of course I
wasnt happy with TACLS USI integration
L1820[21:53:14] <Flayer> and if you didnt
have early access, you would have known about it at all
Eshomlod
L1821[21:53:15] <KyleKidd> so basically
the game is just harder now?
L1822[21:53:15] <drazed> Hyratel, AA no
help :(
L1823[21:53:18] <drazed> still same
issue
L1824[21:53:20] <darqen27> So my last
playthru has not used any USI stations or bases, rather boring I
must say
L1825[21:53:22] <KyleKidd> sounds like
everything got nerfed
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L1827[21:53:40] <Flayer> It was too easy
before.
L1828[21:53:47] <drazed> weird thing is
the new cargo bays only do it in the VAB/SPH... not once launched,
but fairings look like crap even AFTER launch :(
L1829[21:53:50] <Flayer> I mean remember
the soup atmosphere?
L1830[21:53:54] <Eshomlod> No
L1831[21:54:02] <Eshomlod> Because I've
been playing with FAR for a long while
L1832[21:54:03] <KyleKidd> it was easy if
you spent the time to learn how the game mechanics work and got it
down well.
L1833[21:54:09] <Hyratel> drazed, ok
instead of whining and moaning, try and disagnose the problem
L1834[21:54:11] <KyleKidd> game is hard
for newbies
L1835[21:54:16] <Ezko> Eshomlod: and
everything was overpowered with FAR
L1836[21:54:20] <Hyratel> googl e your
video card and describe the issue
L1837[21:54:20] <Flayer> Eshomlod:
^
L1838[21:54:27] <Eshomlod> HURR OP
L1839[21:54:28] <Ezko> you needed 1km/s
less delta v to get into orbit with FAR
L1841[21:55:10] <Flayer> but hey man, its
your game, you're free to mod as much as you like
L1842[21:55:10] <Spheniscine> Spiderweb
is real
L1843[21:55:13] <drazed> I totally would
hyratel... but I work today, and on my FEW minutes of time where I
can actually try 1.0 I am disappointed by this stupid thing
:(
L1844[21:55:24] <Flayer> you can play
with infinite fuel too at the click of a button
L1845[21:55:28] <Eshomlod> I'll mod the
dumb out of it
L1846[21:55:32] <Eshomlod> Because this
is dumb
L1848[21:55:37] <Guest68870> [YouTube]
Title: DIFFERUNT BAAD | Uploader: Dolmify | Uploaded: 23/10/2010,
12:29 | Duration: 32secs | Views: 12,407 | Comments: 50 | Likes:
115 | Dislikes: 2
L1849[21:55:51] <KyleKidd> so the
question of the day would be, are a lot of mods broken from
.90?
L1850[21:55:54] <Hyratel> drazed, that
said
L1851[21:55:55] <darqen27> Old KSP you
could put the rockets on the nosecone and fly the rocket backwards
to the mun
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L1853[21:56:09] <Supernovy> Don't jump on
the guy just because he has different opinions
L1854[21:56:09] <Hyratel> whining is
counterproductive. it makes people annoyed at you and disinclined
to help
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L1856[21:56:36] <milaga> KyleKidd: it's a
good bet
L1857[21:56:39] <Jennifer> Ready, Jeb? 3,
2, 1...!
L1858[21:56:40] <Hyratel> KyleKidd, a lot
of systems were added. I'd advise waiting for even parts packs to
say [1.0] before using
L1859[21:56:55] <KyleKidd> hm
L1860[21:56:59] <KyleKidd> alright
L1861[21:57:20] <KyleKidd> I might just
test it anyways. I don't have anything that I would be upset to
lose.
L1862[21:57:37] <drazed> haha... I wasn't
expecting help on this channel lol.. is this where I go for help? I
was just expecting that 1.0 should NOT have game breaking bugs...
and this feels kind of game breaking (immersion breaking at least).
Anyhow, didn't mean to piss anyone off was just pointing out there
is a serious issue present, at least from my PC (I doubt only mine
though)
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L1864[21:57:53] <Hyratel> drazed, its not
game breaking
L1865[21:57:57] <drazed> i'll diagnos
further if I can figure out what is causing it when I'm not at work
:p
L1866[21:57:58] <darqen27> Old KSP you
could make a pancake rocket of starter SRBs and go anywhere with
enough stages
L1867[21:58:02] <drazed> I said,
immersion-breaking!
L1868[21:58:07] <Hyratel> it's a minor
graphical glitch that seems to be hardware- and OS-specific
L1869[21:58:28] <Flayer> you should
probably file a bug with the developers of your driver
L1870[21:58:32] <drazed> it's a bug that
in ANY other version I wouldn't say anything ;)
L1871[21:58:38] <Jennifer> Nice, achieved
two extra speed records I didn't even know I could have.
L1872[21:58:45] <Hyratel> drazed, write
up a bug report
L1873[21:58:57] <drazed> yeah I said I
will later after work ;)
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L1876[22:00:14] <KyleKidd> well I'm off
to try some 1.0 or maybe besiege
L1877[22:00:21] <KyleKidd> I'll probaly
stream it if anyone is interested
L1878[22:00:21] <Jennifer> Oh, and the
demo gives you both moons.
L1879[22:00:27] <Spheniscine> Drazed: In
the mean time try Procedural Fairings... it's updated I think
L1880[22:01:03] <Spheniscine> Do you
overheat if you go too close to the sun now?
L1882[22:01:08] <drazed> yep updated I
see it... YAY, I have used proc fairings for over a year and that
will do! thanks Spheniscine you rock!
L1883[22:01:13] <Hyratel> Spheniscine,
you should
L1884[22:01:26] <Spheniscine> Hmm... how
close I wonder
L1885[22:01:30] <Jennifer> Oh dear, I
popped the chute at 6km. Jeb has a while to wait to get down.
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L1887[22:01:53] <Spheniscine> Probably
won't get solar Molniya satellite contract anymore
L1888[22:02:14] <Jennifer> And four times
speed for me is... real time. One second per second.
L1889[22:02:53] <Hyratel> Jennifer,
except it causes a higher CPU load
L1890[22:03:19] <Jennifer> Which causes
it to slow down?
L1891[22:03:20] <chris613> stupid_chris:
I'm trying realchutes in 1.0 and I think I've found a problem. The
engineer's report is saying I don't have a chute attached to my
command pod even when I do (stock or RC)
L1892[22:03:46] <chris613> (v1.3.2 of
course)
L1893[22:03:51] <Hyratel> Jennifer, game
trying to ddo too much., is the clock turning yellow in 1x phys
warp?
L1894[22:03:53] <stupid_chris> you didn't
read my release post
L1895[22:04:02] *
chris613 blushes
L1896[22:04:06] <stupid_chris> :p
L1897[22:04:23] <Jennifer> Yes.
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L1899[22:04:34] <darqen27> Jennifer: I
find zooming out from the ship increases FPS and timescale
L1900[22:04:35] <chris613> I will go read
it now. I was just installing mods as fast as I could :)
Thanks
L1901[22:04:35] <Hyratel> what speed is
your CPU?
L1902[22:04:37] <PirateAE> Well it works,
just needs alot of struts >.>
L1904[22:05:10] <Jennifer> Hyratel: No
idea.
L1905[22:05:27] <Hyratel> how many parts
are in-scene?
L1906[22:05:33] <Jennifer> Five.
L1907[22:05:43] <Hyratel> command pod,
parachute, four legs?
L1908[22:05:56] <darqen27> I dont think
she has access to struts yet
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L1910[22:06:27] <Jennifer> Pod, SRB,
chute, two goo containers.
L1911[22:06:31] <Hyratel> huh
L1912[22:06:41] <Hyratel> sounds like
your computer is barely powerful enough
L1913[22:06:51] <darqen27> Does zooming
out do anything?
L1914[22:07:21] <Dewin> Did someone
mention a new keybinding to lock roll earlier?
L1915[22:07:32] <Hyratel> T
L1916[22:07:38] <Jennifer> Not
much.
L1917[22:07:38] <PirateAE> darqen27: was
talking about my craft im working on teh Flea Shooter IV
L1918[22:07:48] <Jennifer> And yeah, this
is a pretty crappy computer.
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L1921[22:08:29] <wagner> Jennifer: hit
win+r, and run 'dxdiag'
L1922[22:09:12] <Jennifer> OK.
L1923[22:09:20] <darqen27> She might just
need to update her video drivers, I think NVIDia had an unstable
release for ksp a bit ago
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L1925[22:09:36] <darqen27> I remember
rolling back a release
L1926[22:10:16] <wagner> heh, apparently
my drivers are almost two years old
L1927[22:10:26] <wagner> this computer
isn't even two years old
L1928[22:10:27] <Jennifer> Wouldn't be
surprised.
L1929[22:10:45] <Jennifer> This
'puter's... five? Older?
L1930[22:10:58] <PirateAE> well its not
flashy but it should easily get me to a fly by of teh mun
L1932[22:11:05] <Jennifer> wagner: What
do I do in dxdiag?
L1933[22:11:28] <wagner> gives you a
bunch of information... for now, what's listed for
"Processor"?
L1934[22:11:49] <Flayer> i would be
terrified to get on board PirateAE
L1936[22:12:16] <Malachite> but why
L1937[22:12:23] <chris613> woah
dude
L1938[22:12:32] <Malachite> thats almost
twice the cost of my launcher <_<
L1939[22:12:55] <Jennifer> AMD Athlon II
X2 255 Processor (2 CPUs), ~3.1GHz
L1940[22:13:02] <regex> WHY IS THE 2
KERBAL LANDING CAN 2.6 TONS WTF SQUAD
L1941[22:13:07] <PirateAE> Its early mid
carrier no 2.5M engines so i had to get fancy :P
L1942[22:13:19] <Malachite> you need to
think lighter.
L1943[22:13:21] <darqen27> More like 6
years old
L1944[22:13:29] <Spheniscine> Regex: Yeah
I noticed they still hadn't rebalanced the command pods
L1945[22:13:37] <PirateAE> cant spell
today
L1946[22:13:50] <regex> At least the
cupola got some mass shaved off, lordy was that a crime
before.
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L1948[22:14:09] <VanDisaster> wtf
L1949[22:14:15] <VanDisaster> this
heating is ridiculous
L1950[22:14:34] <VanDisaster> mach 1.1 at
5000m will not burn your wings off
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L1952[22:15:36] <Lakel> what was your
speed?
L1953[22:15:44] <wagner> mach 1.1
L1954[22:15:52] <Lakel> in meter/s
L1955[22:15:53] <wagner> so... like
320m/s
L1956[22:16:47] <wagner> does the new
aero even model supersonic behavior?
L1957[22:17:10] <VanDisaster> kinda
suspecting it doesn't
L1958[22:17:13] <PirateAE> wagner mach 1
in m/s is 340m/s
L1959[22:17:13] <Kwirkilee> not that I
can tell
L1960[22:17:20] <Lakel> nope
L1961[22:17:24] <wagner> i thought it was
closer to 300
L1962[22:17:33] <Kwirkilee> ;wa mach 1 to
m/s
L1963[22:17:35] <kmath> Kwirkilee:
convert Mach speed 1 to meters per second: 340.3 m/s (meters per
second)
L1964[22:17:36] <Lakel> depends, are you
talking sea level or high altitude?
L1965[22:17:59] <VanDisaster> ;wa mach 1
at 5000m altitude
L1966[22:18:02] <kmath> VanDisaster:
altitude->5000 meters, Mach number->1623.1 knots, 320.6 m/s
(meters per second), 1154 km/h (kilometers per hour)
L1967[22:18:33] <PirateAE> ok altitude
makes a differance >.>
L1968[22:18:45] <Lakel> well very good
then, best i got is its a bug VanDisaster
L1969[22:18:58] <wagner> PirateAE: not
exactly. temperature makes a difference
L1970[22:19:01] <VanDisaster> well DRE
used to do this when you used FAR
L1971[22:19:04] <Lakel> been doing a lot
of flipping about in the 300-400 area to no issue
L1972[22:19:21] <Lakel> and dre never got
hot enough until mach 3 or so, same as what it does now
L1973[22:19:45] <PirateAE> now to see how
one ginballing engine handles this
L1974[22:19:48] <VanDisaster> well recent
DRE no, a while back it was absurd :P
L1975[22:20:04] <GreeningGalaxy> the
turbojet is supposed to have peak thrust at mach 3, but i'm not
convinced it's possible to reach mach 3 with it without exploding
off your cockpit.
L1976[22:20:15] <VanDisaster> but I can't
think how fast you'd have to go at 5000m to overheat an
aircraft
L1977[22:20:16] <Kwirkilee> VanDisaster:
"it's had time to grow up"
L1978[22:20:47] <Lakel> now what was fun,
was taking rss + dre + a scramjet, mach 9 was FUN, also very
hot
L1979[22:21:31] <wagner> yeah. i was
tooling around at ~700m/s at 500m with no issue
L1980[22:21:49] <wagner> not sure why
you'd be overheating at half that, and 10x the altitude
L1981[22:22:19] <Lakel> burned up around
900m/s both at 8km and 18km, my experience so far
L1982[22:22:27] <Spheniscine> Parachutes
now have turbulence?
L1983[22:22:42] <wagner> no, they just
shake the camera
L1984[22:22:49] <Lakel> screenshake seems
to be tied into Gs
L1985[22:22:51] <Kwirkilee> "g
forces"
L1986[22:24:07] <Spheniscine> What I mean
is that the speed now seems to fluctuate slightly
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L1988[22:24:38] <ShadowElite> guys I am
very happy for this release :D
L1989[22:24:54] <Flayer> how dare you not
complain and whine
L1990[22:25:04] <wagner> ok... 800m and i
blew up at 875m/s
L1991[22:25:05] <Epi> wine! mmm
L1992[22:25:18] <ShadowElite> but problem
is my save file? :(
L1993[22:25:20] <Kwirkilee> "I
thought you wanted whining!"
L1994[22:25:21] <ShadowElite> do I have
to replace it?
L1995[22:25:30] <ShadowElite> i wanna
keep it
L1996[22:25:32] <VanDisaster> it's using
1.5GB memory and the SPH floor is fixed in DX11, I'm happy about
that
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L1998[22:25:50] <Neal> is there a way to
show the ore hud from outside the view of a prove with a
scanner
L1999[22:26:01] <ShadowElite> guys do I
have to start a new game or can I keep using my old save
file?
L2000[22:26:10] <wagner> were you running
stock?
L2001[22:26:29] <Kwirkilee> ShadowElite:
I think they changed some of the ways the persistence file was
written and loaded, but I'm not wholly certain
L2002[22:26:38] <Neal> you can use your
own if you were running vanilla. if not, some ships might be
unavalible
L2003[22:26:40] <Kwirkilee> check the
changelog and/or release notes in the readme?
L2004[22:26:55] <ShadowElite> can someone
link me?
L2005[22:26:57] <chris613> I dunno about
loading an old career mode, though, the tech tree has been changed
a bunch
L2006[22:26:59] <ShadowElite> ive been
searching for it
L2007[22:27:03] <Spheniscine> Fine whine,
distilled from the best gripe cultivars
L2008[22:27:14] <ShadowElite> I am about
to start it
L2009[22:27:22] <GreeningGalaxy> ;wa
convert 898.8 eV to joules
L2010[22:27:23] <kmath> GreeningGalaxy:
convert 898.8 eV (electronvolts) to joules: 1.44×10^-16 J
(joules)
L2011[22:27:27] <ShadowElite> If I have
to start and a new save file, oh well o.o
L2012[22:27:27] <Kwirkilee> right there,
line 42 of the readme
L2013[22:27:28] <GreeningGalaxy> that's
what I effin typed!!
L2014[22:27:33] <GreeningGalaxy>
webassign is complete garbage
L2015[22:27:41] <Kwirkilee>
"WARNING: It's very likely that parts, ships and/or saves
created on previous versions will be incompatible with the latest
release. […]"
L2016[22:27:43] <ShadowElite> I hate
webassign
L2017[22:27:49] <wagner> how are we
supposed to know if we're overheating? nothing shows
temperature
L2018[22:27:51] <VanDisaster> hm, that
must have been a bug yeah
L2019[22:28:10] <Spheniscine> You
probably will need to start a new save file - there are lots of
changes that could obsolete your old designs
L2020[22:28:15] <VanDisaster> oh god
these jets are absurd, haha
L2021[22:28:38] <Lakel> was mentiodn the
thermometer wagner
L2022[22:28:40] <ShadowElite> omg goggle
chrome blocked the Kerbal Space 1.0 from downloading!!! GRRRR
L2023[22:28:55] <ShadowElite> Goggle
chrome stop being retarded please
L2024[22:28:56] <VanDisaster> should be
able to make a fun ballistic launcher with them
L2025[22:29:09] <Eshomlod> With a FL-T800
a LV-T30 gets slightly more dv than a aerospike
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L2027[22:29:18] <Eshomlod> In
atmosphere
L2028[22:29:24] <regex> Anybody having
lag on Linux?
L2029[22:29:42] <darqen27> I'll start a
new save when real fuels and Ignitor is updated
L2030[22:29:44] <regex> i feel like 1.0
isn't even touching my CPU anymore, usually it thrashes the hell
out of it
L2031[22:29:46] <Jennifer> Hey Shadow,
I'm on Steam and they're not letting me dl it either.
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L2034[22:30:42] <GreeningGalaxy> regex:
it does seem markedly faster on my laptop
L2035[22:30:46] <ShadowElite> if you guys
experrience webassign, I know your pain
L2036[22:30:48] <GreeningGalaxy> that
could be the lack of mods, though
L2037[22:30:48] <wagner> Lakel: that just
seems to show ambient temp, not craft temp
L2038[22:31:12] <regex> interesting.
Usually the fan on mine starts right up, it's barely going.
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L2040[22:31:20] <GreeningGalaxy>
webassign is like an abusive friend. it does terrible things to you
till you're ready to walk out, then apologizes profusely until you
forgive it.
L2041[22:31:44] <VanDisaster> the
turboramjet just peaked at 900kN...
L2042[22:32:02] <Lakel> well, managed
1067m/s at 17.6k, though my rudder burned off...and somehtign else
just noas as typing
L2043[22:32:54] <regex> Yeah, this is
really weird. Totally laggy, not even spiking CPU like it normally
does. Maybe I should try the 32-bit client...
L2044[22:33:10] <VanDisaster> dx11 client
is using 3% of a core atm
L2045[22:33:11] <wagner> yeah. i just
burned off my vertical and fore planes
L2046[22:33:18] <wagner> lets see if jeb
can still land this...
L2047[22:34:09] <Neal> the FAR stock
planes work remarkably well with the new version of ksp
L2048[22:34:19] <VanDisaster> took off,
pointed straight up, and I have an AP of 118km
L2049[22:34:54] <VanDisaster> spaceplanes
are going to be remarkably simple :p
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L2052[22:35:33] *
wagner is going to have to burn off some fuel before he can
land
L2053[22:35:34] <Jennifer> VanDisaster:
Hm, maybe I'll have to try one for once.
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L2055[22:37:57] <VanDisaster> I can't see
why you'd want to use anything but jets for first stage launchers
now too
L2056[22:38:08] <GreeningGalaxy> I can't
wait till there's a KSPI version that works in 1.0 so I can see how
fast I can blow myself up with beam thermoturbojets
L2057[22:38:11] <TheKosmonaut> o/
L2058[22:38:21] <GreeningGalaxy> also how
fast I can go with atmo heat turned off
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L2060[22:39:27] <TheKosmonaut> Space
Scumbag still has Squad beat for top all time post in the
Subreddit
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L2062[22:40:01] <Lakel> somewhere around
1200 i imagine GreeningGalaxy, i know it was still accelerating
pretty quick in my last flight
L2063[22:40:07] <VanDisaster> re-entry
was simple too
L2064[22:40:13] <regex> Crisis averted,
Kubuntu thought the laptop wasn't plugged in.
L2065[22:40:31] <TheKosmonaut> I know
manley beat 1 km/s with the stock jet model
L2066[22:40:34] <TheKosmonaut>
craft*
L2067[22:40:45] <TheKosmonaut> Shortly
before sploding
L2068[22:40:55] <VanDisaster> was doing
400m/s+ at the end of the runway
L2069[22:40:55] <GreeningGalaxy> Lakel:
with FAR and a ~terawatt thermoturbojet, I was pulling 3500 m/s
skimming the wavetops (yes, that's faster than orbital; I had to
kinda angle down just a tad)
L2070[22:41:33] <wagner> that's a lot of
power
L2071[22:42:00] <K-Mobile> Heh
L2072[22:42:00] <VanDisaster> 1200m/s at
22km
L2073[22:42:23] <VanDisaster> and the jet
ran out of thrust
L2074[22:43:03] <Lakel> well i am talking
stock :p. unfortunate scramjets really arent feasible on kerbin,
went orbital >.>
L2075[22:44:10] <Dewin> well, that was my
first time flying a plane via IVA-only and on an xbox controller,
was kind of neat.
L2076[22:44:20] <Dewin> Sensitivity is a
pain to configure though
L2077[22:44:40] <Dewin> also, I can't see
my throttle in the IVA unless I look away from the windows to the
throttle controls, which is kind of... difficult.
L2078[22:45:53] <Lakel> yea using my
joystick isnt workign to well, keep thinking im flying in dcs, and
the control surfaces really do respond a tad to slow on ksp now.
keep eating dirt
L2079[22:46:03] <ShadowElite> i just
tried it, is it my or the planet is bigger?
L2080[22:46:42] <PirateAE> now the hope
and pary >.> no electric charge left mountian landing
L2081[22:46:43] <Dewin> Lakel: If I had
an actual joystick it'd be preferable. I used to have one
somewhere, but it's an ancient "uses a game port"
joystick.
L2082[22:46:46] <wagner> the 1.25m
ablator did not protect a mk2 cockpit. lets try a 2.5m
L2083[22:46:56] <Dewin> Xbox controller
doesn't leave a hand free for hitting B for brakes on
landing.
L2084[22:46:57] <Spheniscine> Hmm...
crap... can't get enough control authority for gravity turn
L2085[22:47:09] <Lakel> id agree, if i
stopped trying to expect my plane to respond like a F-15 or Su-27
:p
L2086[22:47:30] <Flayer> Spheniscine:
fins, lower thrust?
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L2088[22:47:39] <Lakel> it turns like no
other plane, but it takes a good 2 seconds to get into it
L2089[22:47:48] <wagner> well it seems
there actually is drag
L2090[22:48:01] <wagner> i can't get this
thing above 400m/s with the 2.5m on the nose
L2091[22:48:27] <PirateAE> pray*
L2092[22:49:00] <Spheniscine> Flayer:
Yeah thrust probably too high
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L2094[22:49:29] <Flayer> I don't go over
300 m/sec until i hit 10 km or so
L2095[22:49:38] <Spheniscine> I didn't
play enough with FAR
L2096[22:49:46] <PirateAE> i fly rockest
by that line as well
L2097[22:49:58] <Dewin> I played FAR
exclusively once I learned about it.
L2098[22:50:05] <Dewin> (and DRE)
L2099[22:50:05] <PirateAE> except im a
bit lower ussaly not above 275
L2100[22:50:21] *
PirateAE is not sure how he pulled 81 G
L2101[22:50:32] <Malachite> Flayer:
you're a bit overconservative
L2102[22:50:32] <Lakel> that is an
accomplishment
L2103[22:51:03] <Flayer> Malachite: i
haven't heard myself complaining, everyone else seems to have
issues tho :p
L2104[22:51:10] <Dewin> wow, I don't
think I've ever seen one of my vehicles ever actually gravity turn
that well... too bad that was a tiny 3-piece rocket that couldn't
even go suborbital
L2105[22:51:12] <Malachite> fair enough
:P
L2106[22:51:29] <Dewin> (True gravity
turn, where you nudge the rocket one direction, turn off SAS, and
let it fall over)
L2107[22:51:48] <PirateAE> lakel, likely
because i poped parashutes as late as i could, was just leaving
reentry at 2 Electric charge then
L2109[22:52:26] <Malachite> it works
great when you have a spare bit of twr to straighten out the curve
when you need to
L2110[22:53:00] <Lakel> they really need
to weaken those chutes a bit PirateAE
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L2112[22:53:21] <PirateAE> mine you its a
mk 16 and two 16 redials >.> for a 2 ton craft
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L2114[22:54:29] <Lakel> those chutes
effectively stopped 160 tons
L2115[22:54:33] <PirateAE> .... think i
landed about as far away from KSC as you can ... 17% return
L2116[22:55:06] <Xunie> Is it just me or
is the reentry damage really easy to deal with?
L2117[22:55:06] <Malachite> sounds like
the great desert
L2118[22:55:13] <wagner> what's the
yellow spikes?
L2119[22:55:15] <Tank2333> how can you
get rid of heat from the LV-Ns ?
L2120[22:55:21] <PirateAE> lakel i like
to touch down very soft >.> goal is >5m/s
L2121[22:55:32] <Xunie> Greater than 5
m/s? REALLY?
L2122[22:55:42] <PirateAE> wrong
sign
L2123[22:55:47] <PirateAE> less than
5m/s
L2124[22:55:50] <Jennifer> Forgot to
check the staging again. Poor Bill.
L2125[22:56:04] <PirateAE> lol
L2126[22:56:05] <Lakel> wagner: messing
with the debug readouts. sadly it doesnt know how to give a readout
for the pwings beyond the spikes
L2127[22:56:10] <Jennifer> So far that
warning function isn't helping me much... :p
L2128[22:56:20] <GreeningGalaxy> I have a
lot of mod I need to make and none of the know-how required to
actually do it. :X
L2129[22:56:28] <PirateAE> Malachite:
1775 KM from KSC
L2130[22:56:34] <Spheniscine> Made it to
orbit with only 54 m/s left o.o
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L2132[22:56:56] <Lakel> jeb is stuck up
there isnt he?
L2133[22:57:08] <Malachite> ;wa
3.14*((600^2)/2)
L2134[22:57:09] <kmath> Malachite:
3.14×600^2/2 = 565200
L2135[22:57:25] <Tank2333> i just did a
few minutes burn with a single lv_N and my tank exploded...
L2136[22:57:27] <Malachite> why you strip
my editing.
L2139[22:58:05] <Malachite> eh, the
distance from ksp is calculated as a chord, isnt it
L2140[22:58:15] <Malachite> instead of
over the ground distance
L2141[22:58:29] <chris613> yes it seems
so
L2142[22:59:17] <GreeningGalaxy> Crew
status so far:
L2143[22:59:38] <Jennifer> :wa
790/515,300
L2144[23:00:00] <Jennifer> ;wa
790/515300
L2145[23:00:04] <Spheniscine> Erm how do
I warp to node
L2146[23:00:05] <kmath> Jennifer:
790/515300 = 79/51530
L2147[23:00:14] <Jennifer> How do I
calc?
L2148[23:00:20] <Malachite> Spheniscine:
click past the node, it should say "warp to
maneuver"
L2149[23:00:22] <Scientist> .C 1+2
L2150[23:00:23] <Guest68870> Scientist:
3
L2151[23:00:26] <Jennifer> Ah.
L2152[23:00:42] <Jennifer> ;kmath
79/51530
L2153[23:00:43] <kmath> Jennifer: Cannot
predict now
L2154[23:00:44] <GreeningGalaxy> Jeb:
standing at KSC. Bill: Standing out in the field to the west of
KSC. Bob: Murdered by Barchelle Kerman in revenge for usurping her
role in too many missions. Valentina: Onboard the KSS Vallentina,
theoretically bound for Vall but probably marooned as a result of a
gross miscalculation of asteroid mass and a quadruple reactor
failure.
L2155[23:00:55] <Scientist> XD
L2156[23:01:03] <Jennifer>
GreeningGalaxy: That was quick.
L2157[23:01:04] <Fetch> Does 1.0 not have
sat contracts? Or are they much rarer or get triggered by a certain
node in the tech tree? (I've done Mun flybys but no sat missions
yet)
L2158[23:01:18] <Malachite> Fetch: the
sat contracts are still there
L2160[23:01:22] <Malachite> you need to
have enough rep
L2161[23:01:29] <Tank2333> flys?
L2162[23:01:37] <Scientist> .c
79/51530
L2163[23:01:37] <Guest68870> Scientist:
0.001533087522
L2164[23:01:37] <mngrif> flies.
L2165[23:01:40] <Lakel> that is just
wrong
L2166[23:02:04] <GreeningGalaxy>
cripe
L2167[23:02:09] <Jennifer> I have three
two-thousandths of the KSP 1.0 download. This is ridiculous.
L2168[23:02:25] <Scientist> :) get better
net
L2169[23:02:26] <Lakel> i have to know,
what compelled you to make that Tank2333?
L2170[23:02:27] <GreeningGalaxy> mine
downloaded in like 2 minutes. lol
L2171[23:02:36] <Tank2333> something is
wrong with you connection to steam download servers
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L2173[23:02:52] <VanDisaster> that thing
flew in far too tho :P
L2174[23:02:53] <PirateAE> my downloads
(X2) were both about 5 mins, zip and installer
L2175[23:03:00] <Tank2333> Lakel a
contest on the forums
L2176[23:03:13] <Jennifer> Tank2333: Dang
straight.
L2177[23:03:30] <Jennifer> I did get the
demo dled, but I got it from KSP.com.
L2178[23:03:31] <Scientist> Lakel: what
never seen a HTOL rocket?;p
L2180[23:03:38] <Lakel> never even heard
of
L2181[23:03:58] <GreeningGalaxy> .choose
stay with Mint | switch to Debian
L2182[23:03:58] <Guest68870>
GreeningGalaxy: Your options: stay with Mint , switch to Debian. My
choice: switch to Debian
L2183[23:04:02] <Tank2333> its how
kerbals move rocket parts or did you seen rail networks?
L2184[23:04:09] *
GreeningGalaxy is tempt
L2185[23:04:14] <Jennifer> I wonder, if I
email Squad, if they'd let me dl a copy since I can't get it from
Steam.
L2186[23:04:17] <Wetmelon> SO
L2187[23:04:19] <Flayer> good choice
imo
L2188[23:04:31] <Wetmelon> How's
1.0?
L2189[23:04:35] <Tank2333> well
L2190[23:04:41] <Tank2333> im not
sure
L2191[23:04:41] <GreeningGalaxy> what
with the new Jessie release with systemd and everything... im very
tempt
L2192[23:04:42] <Jennifer> Hm.
L2193[23:04:46] <Wetmelon> Jennifer:
Steam isn't downloading properly?
L2194[23:05:03] <Wetmelon> Isn't
downloading KSP* properly?
L2195[23:05:10] <Jennifer> .choose 1 | 2
| 3 | 4
L2196[23:05:10] <Guest68870> Jennifer:
Your options: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4. My choice: 3
L2197[23:05:15] <Dewin> Watching an
engine gimbal while it's not running at 4x timewarp is... kind of
funny looking.
L2198[23:05:19] <Jennifer> Wetmelon:
Nope.
L2199[23:05:33] <Wetmelon> :O Besiege
*Also* had a large update today
L2200[23:05:35] <PirateAE> .Choice Mun
lander | mimus flyby
L2201[23:05:35] <Guest68870> PirateAE:
Your options: Mun lander , mimus flyby. My choice: Mun lander
L2202[23:05:37] <Jennifer> I'm on the
verge of repurchasing it. Totally worth it.
L2203[23:05:58] <Wetmelon> Jennifer: Meh,
figure out what's wrong with Steam anyway lol
L2204[23:06:09] *
PirateAE looks like hes building a lander >.>
L2205[23:06:24] <UmbralRaptor>
GreeningGalaxy: distro pinball?
L2206[23:06:29] <GreeningGalaxy>
heh
L2207[23:06:36] <TheKosmonaut> Are those
fairings between the MK I II heat shield and separator/decoupler
toggleable?
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L2209[23:06:46] <GreeningGalaxy> well,
ideally i would stay with debian for an extended period because the
distro is amicable to that sort of thing
L2210[23:07:02] *
Flayer hasn't upgraded in ~3 years
L2211[23:07:10] <GreeningGalaxy> reducing
the Atomic Age nuclear lightbulb's mass from 20 to 12 was a good
choice
L2212[23:07:11] <Flayer> of course i came
from testing and went along with the release
L2213[23:07:14] <GreeningGalaxy> it feels
so much better now
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L2215[23:07:32] <GreeningGalaxy> the
inside of the engine is mostly empty space anyway, it's not like it
would weigh that much.
L2216[23:07:42] <PirateAE> wheres the
small lander can in teh new tech tree?
L2217[23:07:49] <Flayer> and because i
didnt upgrade i can't run KSP natively lol
L2218[23:08:13] *
UmbralRaptor doesn't dare try to run KSP on his
laptop.
L2219[23:08:32] *
K-Mobile is forced to run ksp on his laptop
L2220[23:08:47] <K-Mobile> Better known
as my craptop
L2221[23:08:52] *
UmbralRaptor stops pointing the gun at K-Mobile.
L2222[23:09:01] <SnoopJeDi> I did a
single launch streaming from my desktop to laptop earlier to test
out 1.0 and Steam streaming. It was neat
L2223[23:09:08] *
PirateAE found it
L2224[23:09:13] <Lakel> 20-22m/s seems to
be the "fall out of the sky" limit for all my planes to
this point
L2225[23:09:43] *
milaga hears, somewhere in the distance, his laptop exploding just
thinking about running KSP.
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L2228[23:10:05] <K-Mobile> My craptop can
run ksp very decently
L2229[23:10:24] <Jennifer> Bed time.
Night folks.
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L2231[23:10:32] <K-Mobile> If mine can
run it, you have no excuse
L2232[23:10:44] <Malachite> apparently
ive been running at a 2 twr <_<
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L2234[23:11:09] <Lakel> seems ksp either
does have a "stall" of sorts, or just simply cuts off
control authority under 22m/s
L2235[23:11:10] <regex> for four kerbals
on a grand tour, should I have two hitchhikers or three?
L2236[23:11:11] <VanDisaster> not a fan
of this "heating" at all so far
L2237[23:11:25] <wagner> 22m/s you
say?
L2238[23:11:51] <Lakel> whichever it is,
the plane cant maintain attitude as soon as it drops under
that
L2239[23:12:17] <GreeningGalaxy> is
anyone else seeing monstrous Z-fighting on the fairings/inline
cargobays/other stuff that moves in the VAB?
L2240[23:12:54] <regex> Y U NO RADIAL
ANYMORE HITCHHIKER
L2241[23:13:20] <Lakel> trying for
slower, or did wagner?
L2242[23:13:42] <Kalpa> HYYYYPE
L2243[23:14:02] *
milaga smacks Kalpa
L2244[23:14:02] *
Guest68870 zaps milaga
L2245[23:14:02] <Lakel> just testing it
with this pilot assistant mod, freakin awesome at controlling the
plane. nice and precise
L2246[23:14:04] <wagner> trying. i'm
stable somewhere around 25m/s
L2247[23:14:13] <Kalpa>
Hypejypejype
L2248[23:14:24] <Kalpa> Good thinh I have
12hr workday today
L2249[23:14:48] <milaga> Kerbal Chowder
Program
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L2252[23:15:22] <Lakel> just comparing it
to far, its loss of lift is way more sudden, this almost exact
design was flying around at a high AoA before it stalled in
far
L2253[23:15:34] <Kalpa> 20:20 ?? Bloody,
they released 50min after I went sleeping
L2254[23:16:10] <GreeningGalaxy> ;c
1500*9.81*ln(54.3/22.3)
L2255[23:16:10] <kmath> GreeningGalaxy:
13095.4310257922
L2256[23:16:22] <Supernovy> tulitpa
hyvään aikaan Kalpa Galaksintie
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L2258[23:16:31] <milaga> they waited
until the moment you entered REM and then released
L2259[23:16:46] <chris613> Wow it used to
just be that you could hit the atmo with a chute and land. Now I'm
coming in shallow with a heat shield and three chutes and can't
slow down enough :P
L2260[23:16:49] <GreeningGalaxy> ;c
950*9.81*ln(45.3/13.3)
L2261[23:16:49] <kmath> GreeningGalaxy:
11421.4479629765
L2262[23:17:05] <chris613> Well, shallow
with a 7Mm apo :P
L2263[23:17:10] <Lakel> yya jello
chris613
L2264[23:17:13] <milaga> so fast and
shallow
L2265[23:17:23] <chris613> ya
L2266[23:17:33] <milaga> charcoal
speeds
L2267[23:17:46] <PirateAE> chris you need
to aim higher on your PE coming from out there, ballpark 20 km
PE
L2268[23:18:07] <chris613> Last time 30
was too low. Doing 49 now
L2269[23:18:47] <PirateAE> that might be
a bit to high for one and done, youll lilly skip a few times
L2270[23:18:51] <PirateAE> likely*
L2272[23:19:37] <PirateAE> which is the
better way, i mun flybyied and free returned to 21 km and was
down
L2275[23:19:53] <wagner> Lakel: ^^^
L2276[23:19:55] <milaga> hmm, I want to
try something
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L2278[23:20:13] <Neal> do vessels shake
when experiencing high Gs in vacuum or is that just an atmospheric
thing
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L2280[23:20:27] <Lakel> jsut getting
ready to fall there eh wagner? :p
L2282[23:21:01] <wagner> nope, still
flying
L2283[23:21:02] <chris613> skipped hard
:P
L2284[23:21:07] <wagner> somewhere around
15.5m/s is stable
L2285[23:21:14] <VanDisaster> this drag
model :S
L2286[23:21:26] <Lakel> interesting, mind
a good shot of the plane and wings?
L2287[23:21:48] <VanDisaster> pitch up
slightly, lose 40m/s straight off
L2288[23:22:10] <Malachite> wait a
second
L2289[23:22:30] <wagner> VanDisaster:
yeah. control surfaces are _very_ draggyu
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L2291[23:23:28] <Lakel> how much aoa did
you pull VanDisaster?
L2292[23:23:36] <GreeningGalaxy> Neal:
They shake, yes.
L2293[23:23:38] <VanDisaster> 10
deg
L2294[23:23:39] <GreeningGalaxy> in a
vacuum
L2295[23:23:46] <VanDisaster> er
wait
L2296[23:23:49] <Lakel> and Gs?
L2297[23:23:55] <VanDisaster> that was
how much I pitched up
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L2299[23:24:04] <VanDisaster> I just
tapped S briefly to pull up slightly
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L2301[23:24:41] <Lakel> hm, i just know
it allows you to pull some high aoa, been doing some stupid braking
turns so far
L2302[23:25:32] <GreeningGalaxy> isru
stuff is heavy
L2303[23:25:39] <GreeningGalaxy> if you
carry it, you have to use it, lol
L2304[23:26:10] <wagner> stupid internet,
let me upload the picture...
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L2308[23:27:51] <Ditchbuster> do any
parts returned with a parachute refund money or only on the manned
part
L2309[23:27:57] <wagner> i managed to
touch down in the water slow enough to not lose any parts
L2310[23:28:34] <wagner> lets add more
wings!
L2311[23:29:45] <Lakel> either a
difference in pwings lift/area, or the wing sweep. maybe both
L2312[23:30:25] <Malachite> was anyone
able to figure out the recovery profit from ore?
L2313[23:30:48] <PirateAE> wagner only
parts that stay loaded
L2314[23:30:59] <wagner> ?
L2315[23:31:13] <PirateAE> if they deload
in the atmosphere they are deleted
L2316[23:31:21] <wagner> eh?
L2317[23:31:23] <PirateAE> unload*
L2318[23:31:27] <GreeningGalaxy> is it
safe to use a 1.25-m heatshield with the small lander can?
L2319[23:31:33] <Lakel> talking to
Ditchbuster PirateAE?
L2320[23:31:33] <Supernovy> Ditchbuster:
everything you hit 'recover' on will recover money like
normal.
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L2322[23:32:10] <Supernovy> Ditchbuster:
debris does not generate a recovery pop up window like controlled
parts, though
L2323[23:32:33] <Malachite> man, i love
when i get a single burn to match a contract orbit
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L2325[23:32:53] <PirateAE> Lakel: no
Wagner, If you drop a part say on lift off, even if it has a
deployed parashute if it becomes unloaded, it gets auto deleted,
not recovered
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L2328[23:33:16] <wagner> PirateAE: yeah,
check the scrollback
L2329[23:33:50] <PirateAE> im talking
about mid airdrops
L2330[23:33:54] <Malachite> though at
27km, you get a lot of help
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L2332[23:34:56] <milaga> StageRecovery is
working with 1.0 if you want to get more funds back
L2333[23:35:34] <wagner> Lakel: 3x the
wing and i'm good down to ~10.5
L2334[23:36:07] <milaga> KCT has a build
on git, but not an official release
L2335[23:36:07] <GreeningGalaxy> what
warrants a red skull and crossbones on the design checklist?
lol
L2336[23:36:15] <Lakel> managing around
11-12 for my redesign, though this is not exactly a soeedy wing
design
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L2341[23:36:48] <Malachite> GG: im not
sure exactly
L2342[23:37:09] <Ezko> GreeningGalaxy: a
perfect rocket
L2343[23:37:44] <milaga> monoprop you
can't use oooh!
L2344[23:38:15] <milaga> actually I don't
know if that's it ... immediately I was given a red skull and
crossbones for my first rocket so I decided to ignore the
warnings
L2345[23:38:30] <milaga> (my first rocket
did flip several times and kill the pilot, so maybe I should pay
more attention)
L2346[23:38:35] <PirateAE> intresting
place to put a Small SAS wheel... roof of the 1.5 service bay
L2347[23:38:49] <wagner> 0.05kN thrust
ASL for the ions
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L2349[23:38:54] <wagner> guess there's no
more ion aircraft...
L2350[23:39:07] <milaga> PirateAE: I
already found it's a good place to put your antenna
L2351[23:39:23] <milaga> I'm gonna stuff
so much junk in there
L2352[23:39:40] <PirateAE> milaga: It
must HOLD ALL THE THINGS!!!
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L2354[23:40:28] <Ditchbuster> Supernovy,
thanks. thats what i was wondering. i didnt see the window
L2355[23:41:06] <VanDisaster> heh
woo
L2356[23:41:19] <VanDisaster> LV-N
overheat is evil
L2357[23:41:24] <Eshomlod> ^
L2358[23:41:48] <Supernovy> Ditchbuster:
it's that way deliberately so that if you had to recover a whole
bunch of debris at once it would be less annoying
L2359[23:42:16] <GreeningGalaxy> do
overheat gauges even draw anymore
L2360[23:42:24] <Supernovy> Yes.
L2361[23:43:30] <UmbralRaptor> The LV-1
is probably scary good in small craft.
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L2363[23:43:57] <Supernovy> UmbralRaptor:
it really did not need a buff.
L2364[23:44:17] <Supernovy> UmbralRaptor:
UBv2 when? :)
L2365[23:44:30] <UmbralRaptor> ;c
215*9.80665*ln((0.5625+0.12)/(0.12+0.0625))
L2366[23:44:30] <kmath> UmbralRaptor:
2781.04488786823
L2367[23:44:36] <Supernovy> especially
now that tech treeing is easier
L2368[23:44:44] <UmbralRaptor> ;c
215*9.80665*ln((1.125+0.12)/(0.12+0.125))
L2369[23:44:44] <kmath> UmbralRaptor:
3427.53213293954
L2370[23:44:52] <UmbralRaptor> Oh, 315,
not 215.
L2371[23:45:02] <VanDisaster> yow
L2372[23:45:13] <VanDisaster> rapier jet
mode, 600kn and rising...
L2373[23:45:20] <Supernovy> ;c
3427.53213293954*(315/215)
L2374[23:45:20] <kmath> Supernovy:
5021.73312500444
L2375[23:45:55] <UmbralRaptor> ;c
315*2781/215
L2376[23:45:55] <kmath> UmbralRaptor:
4074.48837209302
L2377[23:46:05] <Lakel> any luck wagner?
managed down tot he 9-10 area, debatable if its still flying at 9
or fallin gin style
L2378[23:46:10] <UmbralRaptor> Better
than 4 km/s with a probe and an FL-T100.
L2379[23:46:21] <UmbralRaptor> But the
mass ratios of the S3s have been fixed. <3
L2380[23:46:39] <wagner> was seeing what
i got at 10km
L2381[23:46:44] <Supernovy> ;c
4/((1.125+0.12)*10)
L2382[23:46:45] <kmath> Supernovy:
0.321285140562249
L2383[23:46:53] <wagner> managed a stable
deep stall at ~23m/s
L2384[23:46:55] <Supernovy> 0.3 TWR
though
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L2387[23:47:20] <UmbralRaptor>
Ion-lite?
L2388[23:47:33] <Supernovy> Heh.
L2389[23:47:37] <UmbralRaptor> ;c
4000/(315*1.29488)
L2390[23:47:37] <kmath> UmbralRaptor:
9.80663281417019
L2391[23:47:47] <UmbralRaptor> Yay, it's
not 9.82!
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L2393[23:48:07] <Eshomlod> I'm hoping
they patch in the ability to toggle fuel tanks to have either
fuel/oxidizer or just fuel
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L2395[23:48:23] <Supernovy> UmbralRaptor:
it was correct to within 1% before...
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L2398[23:49:13] <Malachite> i still need
to figure out the profit margin on ore drilling <_<
L2399[23:49:17] <Supernovy> I'll just
deal with having a worse mass ratio when trying to use rocket fuel
tanks for liquid fuel only.
L2400[23:49:20] <Spheniscine> So ISP g is
now fixed?
L2401[23:49:38] <Lakel> plane is now
flying at 40 degrees sideslip, yay for autopilot!
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L2403[23:50:10] <UmbralRaptor>
Spheniscine: Apparently.
L2404[23:50:18] <wagner> yeah. this thing
doesn't do sideslip
L2405[23:50:29] <wagner> i'm actually
rolling with my rudder and dihedral
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L2407[23:51:28] <Spheniscine> Kerbal
Fairing simulator
L2408[23:51:31] <VanDisaster> I'm
starting to think this aero doesn't make all that much mre sense
than the previous version :p
L2409[23:51:42] <RandomJeb> VanDisaster:
I made a plane last night
L2411[23:51:56] <RandomJeb> well I made
two, this is more boxy than the first though
L2412[23:52:07] <VanDisaster> \o/
L2413[23:52:17] <Spheniscine> Yeah I'm
kinda thinking that it may be harder than FAR (except that SAS
actually works well)
L2415[23:52:39] <VanDisaster> you seen
ferram's post about new FAR?
L2416[23:52:44] <Dewin> NuFar?
L2417[23:52:44] <Spheniscine> Nope
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L2420[23:53:27] <VanDisaster> can get it
off github if you want to try
L2421[23:53:56] <Lakel> also dear god
wagner, this thing was justy flying at least 70 deg sideslip. and
VanDisaster, i must find this
L2423[23:54:31] <Dasm> RoverDude: Hey, if
you're there... is there a cfg edit I can do for the heat shield to
give it weight?
L2424[23:54:39] <Malachite> holy
awesome
L2425[23:54:43] <Lakel> just click
"download .zip"?
L2426[23:54:44] <Malachite> i highy
support nufar
L2427[23:55:08] <VanDisaster> yeah should
be it
L2428[23:55:20] <milaga> eesh, this last
days of vietnam thing is spooky
L2429[23:55:28] <Spheniscine> o.o
Gosh
L2430[23:56:15] <Lakel> ok so i think ive
figured out my plane, i have my a god dang sky-wakeboard
L2431[23:56:20] <Spheniscine> Main
problem I am having is that I can't seem to turn much before 15,000
m
L2432[23:56:48] <Supernovy> Dasm: search
content:"physicssignificance = 1" find and replace
"physicssignificance = 1" -> "physicssignificance
= 0"
L2433[23:56:48] <Spheniscine> I can get
to orbit just fine though... just probably need a little more
dV
L2434[23:56:56] <milaga> yeah, me neither
Spheniscine
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L2436[23:57:07] <milaga> and if I do
manage to turn, I usualy do a 1080
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L2438[23:57:37] <milaga> Tony Hawk's
Kerbal Skate Program
L2439[23:57:45] <Supernovy> You gotta
kinda be active with your turns, keep on the edge of the prograde
marker the whole time
L2440[23:57:46] <Wetmelon> Are you guy's
launching rockets in 1.0?
L2441[23:58:03] <Malachite> Wetmelon:
yep
L2442[23:58:03] <Spheniscine> Supernovy:
That's what I was doing
L2443[23:58:04] <Wetmelon> ^ Yeah, start
your gravity turn at like... 1.5km or so
L2444[23:58:07] <Lakel> wakeboarding
here
L2445[23:58:08] <milaga>
"flinging" is a better word
L2446[23:58:20] <Malachite> 1.5km? i set
my initial gravity turn at like 100m
L2447[23:58:20] <Wetmelon> And then try
to keep low AoA
L2448[23:58:42] <Lakel> soon as you clear
the tower is what ive laways heard
L2449[23:58:47] <Wetmelon> Eh, I find
you'll tend to pitch over *too* soon
L2450[23:59:28] <Wetmelon> Most rockets
do a small pitch kick very soon to avoid falling back on the pad
should things go south, but they don't do the larger gravity turn
kick until higher up. Falcon 9, for example, doesn't do it until ~
55s into flight
L2451[23:59:31] <Dasm> I'm amazed at how
quickly the game loads now.